Hard C1 Checker and Dev.Cas HKT-11

[Legion]

Heres some pics of these units if you havent seen them before - I just took a picture

[Mark30001]

Thanks for sharing! :)

[wombat]

Nice! Never seen that kind of DC before. It sure looks strange!

[-=FamilyGuy=-]

omg 1+3+3=7 ...

? internal pics ?

:clap::clap::clap: Great piece of collection ...

[VitAmen]

Cool stuff...
btw, could you explain what these units do?

[Legion]

Heres the backend of the dev.kas HKT-11

[VitAmen]

would you happen to know what the dev.cas unit was used for?

[Legion]

The dev.cas HKT-011 was for sound development
The Hard C1 checker was an address checker for finding game bugs - the game would crash and the light would go on

[VitAmen]

cool stuff

[Parris]

Legion if you are still available to discuss, do you have any idea how the HKT-11 was utilised by sound developers?

The units attached to the HKT-11 appear to be standard retails (although I did see an image of an adapted one for the debug checker).

I see the MIDI I/O and presume that the developers can track MIDI events, but surely the HKT-030 (Midi Module) and Katana kits were much more advanced and far better equipped to deal with MIDI development.

After all the actual MIDI material would be created using studio equipment, be it Mac's or whatever running Cubase whilst the HKT-030 would presumably be the reference module for the available palette of MIDI patches?

Curious indeed as NOTHING other than this post appears on the net. Like these kits landed from Mars! ;-)

[WolverineDK]

Parris: Legion is still around, so he will probably reply, sooner or later Sir ! :)

[Parris]

Thanks! I know he is on his travels very shortly, so wanted to catch him prior to departure ;-) <although AG is available everywhere, he might have no direct PC access or be too busy soon>

[WolverineDK]

Thanks! I know he is on his travels very shortly, so wanted to catch him prior to departure ;-) <although AG is available everywhere, he might have no direct PC access or be too busy soon>

You can always check upon his activities through his profile.

[Parris]

Okay, I was keen to find out more about this unit, so thanks to Drussian for setting up a mutually agreeable trade with the original owner. The Dreamcast astride the unit is a standard retail unit and reads retail discs. My version is NTSC U, however there is no video output from the HKT-11 so you should be able to just connect up a PAL unit if you prefered. It's also a standard 9v walwart PSU, so no issues with regional voltage problems if you obtain an appropriate adapter. It does however have 4 dip presumably related to the region of the disc.

So, here is the HKT-11 PCB. (Just added better image as previous was a little blurred)

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q265/Parris1972/Misc/IMG_6048.jpg

Underside (boring I'm afriad, no hidden chips or anything);

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q265/Parris1972/Misc/IMG_6051.jpg

It's pretty straight forward looking, but curiously it contains NO sound chips. I was half expecting a Yamaha XG/GM Midi chip, but nothing like that at all.

Instead it has an Altera MAX 7000 (PLD; Programmable Logic Device) detailed here: http://docs-asia.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/0117/0900766b8011788f.pdf

...plus a Fujitsu SCSI controller chip.

In the middle of the board is "PC BD SET7 MAIN", plus on the front there is an "Access" light.

In the original auction there were 2 WinCE Dreamcast development discs and it's not a huge leap of faith to think those discs were connected to the 2 HKT-11 kits being auctioned, although they were never placed together or mentioned in the same breath.

The writing on the front says "Dreamcast Dev CAS (not Kas) HKT-11" and the only CAS I know relates to Networking.

So, would anyone like to hazard a guess as to whether in actual fact this unit was akin to the Xbox Beta Live kit? It has a serial output which was possibly (given the text on the PCB) meant to connect directly to a PC rather than the Katana.

What if this was a means of testing Sega's online content? The HKT-11 could be part of the Sega's online development system to establish whether content would run on the retail unit?

Any ideas? Clearly this is a hypothesis. It's made with limited experience of the unit and having not yet obtained the WinCE disc from the previous owner. I'd like to test the theory out, but if it's like the Xbox Beta Live system, it's probably the case that they are defunkt! However, the WinCE discs in the right hands may permit content to be produced on a PC and sent to the HKT-11.

I can't see their purpose & use for sound development given that the HKT-030 exists and any MIDI material would be produced using studio equipment (as stated before).

Thanks to Drussian & Diddydonn for listening to my meanderings and adding their own input. If I am wholly wrong, it's not their fault as I ventured the idea. If I am correct, then they atleast added flesh to a rather ignorant bone!

....discuss..... <or laugh! If this is just nonsense, then atleast it provides some Eye Candy. I still don't understand the MIDI I/O, so would love someone to come back with a manual or something more concrete than my ramblings.> ;-)

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q265/Parris1972/Misc/IMG_6035.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q265/Parris1972/Misc/IMG_6036.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q265/Parris1972/Misc/IMG_6041.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q265/Parris1972/Misc/IMG_6039.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q265/Parris1972/Misc/IMG_6046.jpg

Connection from DC to HKT-11

[peekb]

This is a weird box. It contains all the "important" connectors from a Set 5. It's missing the video outputs (provided by the attached DC), serial port, GD-Writer, and the rotary switch on the front for region selection (which again, the attached DC would provide).

But no separate hard drive like a Set 5. And the motherboard of the HKT-11 has solder pads for a variety of chips, all of which aren't there.

Bizarre. A debug kit for retail games which could be run against Codescape on the PC side for real-time debug of GD-Rs or even retails? A mini-dev kit where the PC provides the hard drive for GD-R emulation? Or perhaps it just requires physical media?

I'm doubtful of the network debug simply because it would be impossible to test broadband on this. The side-port is covered and there's no pass-thru or jack on the box itself. Same goes for modem, though an external modem could perhaps be hooked up to the serial port, though I've found that the serial was used for debug output 99% of the time.

I'm also doubtful it was for sound dev since the HKT-30 exists.

The Set 7 silkscreen is also interesting since all the previous dev kits were known as Set X.

My personal theory is that it's a debug station or mini-dev kit and that FPGA in the center acts as the debug "host" passing data between the DC bus and the PC for Codescape and the like. It was likely far cheaper for Sega to produce this than a full Set 5 tower since all of the DC hardware itself already exists in the retail console.

[Parris]

My only addition to that is that in 1999 most people would have been thinking of 33k modems and not broadband, however I am not sure of when Sega (or others) really decided to impliment those developments. Perhaps they were fundamentals from the off?

If this was a useful, necessary and invaluable piece of kit to a developer, surely we'd have seen them before now? I literally cannot find mentioned of them at all online (you (PeekB) have been looking through official documentation) and the fact Mark hasn't stumbled across the unit or mention of it is odd.

During our conversation I was also interested in the fact that SET7 relates to later development material, so effectively this is a long way up the developmental ladder. The PC / DC idea is interesting, the idea that perhaps the Katana in some instances was just not required so this stripped down version could utilise the PC hardware and just use a retail DC for that side of things.

Again, why are these the only 2 that have thus far surfaced? Curious boxes indeed!

[DRussian]

The units full name is the hkt-1130, its a curious labelling as it is the only dreamcast dev hardware listed (that i can find) that has 30 as the last two digits, the Katana has numbers in the 20`s i.e. 0120, The sound box was the 0300 but the 3 is just coincedental i`d imagine.

As the dev cas mentions the SET 7, which you would assume would come after the SET5 maybe we can conclude the boards which had originally been manufactured for some other SEGA dev hardware had some of their chips removed at a later date as they proved obsolete and perhaps expensive for a task which didnt require them. This would mean the boards were created in 1999 but the dev.cas could`ve come out at any time.

*edit* The retail DC unit is model number 3030, so that could be the reason for the numbering 1130 on the dev cas.

[Parris]

Dr. D, can you go open that PAL DC with the additional RS232 for me please. Can you get images and / or check where the LED, Pizo switch and RS232 are connected too? Is there perhaps an additional PCB in your unit or is it just a simple job as I'd like to replicate? Would like to run checker, but hey without the C1 Checker it'll be a no go.

[DRussian]

Error LED and reset switch PCB. It`s secured with a lot of glue. The PCB reads SEGA 2000 made in Japan and has the correct corresponding board markings to the components, so it was created professionally using official materials.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6135/spa0126nb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

RS-232 connection
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/624/spa0127gf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

will update with clearer pics soon, my camera is out of action.

The RS-232 connections PCB board. One set of wires going straight to the power supply so it can power the C1/C2 add-on unit, the other is a data connection to the GD-ROM drive so error checking data registers on the C1/C2 add-on.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5861/spa0129tj4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Dreamcast]

One way you may be able to gain insight into the purpose of the Dev.Cas unit is to hook it up to a SCSI card and see what it identifies itself or its hardware as when the PC boots (I know the Adaptec AHA-2940UW does this).

As has already been said, it makes sense that it may have been a stripped down version of the Katana tower, pooling resources like the GD-ROM from a retail unit. I'd be interested in knowing if the serial on the unit DRussian has goes back to the serial out on the retail unit and acts as a coder's cable type of interface. This would be the replacement for the serial on the back of the Katana if it is indeed part of some prototype mini development kit.

I doubt the WinCE software was part of this. The revision on it was 2.0. Since this hardware seems newer, if this unit was going to be supported by the WinCE SDK there should be information in the readily available Dreamcast WinCE 2.1 SDK. However, the other software interests me.

[DRussian]

The power supply board which sits on top of the modem board appears to have been fastened more securely than the retail units, even with the screws removed it will not budge, I guess more glue and dont want to force it! Looking through the small gap between the two boards the wires are visible and it looks as if they do indeed connect to the modem board with the rear serial port attached to it.

[andoba]

Couldn't it be a standard debug kit? Like NR readers, etc...

[DRussian]

pics of the c1/c2 checker;

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/476/spa0130ll1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Board reads "SEGA 1998 IC BD C1-CHECKER" Like the HKT-11 units this unit is comlpletely immaculate and dust free.

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9533/spa0131jx3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Another Altera Max chip in this unit Parris!

[Parris]

Nice! :dance:

The PSU is more securely fastened, but it should come off without too much effort. I noticed the same on my unit.

[Pikkon]

Very nice DC dev hardware you lads got,Im loving the pics:dance:

[DRussian]

Cheers Pikkon. It`s very interesting kit, hopefully we`ll be able to unravel all of the mysteries surrounding it.

The small screw on the side of the Dev.Cas that holds the small docking piece of metal had to be removed for the PAL unit to fit flush against it.

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7859/spa0132mj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Did you have to do the same Parris?

[hl718]

Just noticed this thread for the first time. Of all the people here to make guesses about the intended use, peekb should be the one getting the gold star. :)

Parris if you manage to get the software for the unit, PM me. Without the software it's not going to do too much.

-hl718

[Parris]

The small screw on the side of the Dev.Cas that holds the small docking piece of metal had to be removed for the PAL unit to fit flush against it.


Did you have to do the same Parris?

Have a look at the underside, you'll see that you have to put the metal clip into a little slot underneath the unit. It's a bit tricky, but once it's on, you can screw it into place - that secures the DC to the base unit.


Just noticed this thread for the first time. Of all the people here to make guesses about the intended use, peekb should be the one getting the gold star. :)

Parris if you manage to get the software for the unit, PM me. Without the software it's not going to do too much.

-hl718

It all depends on what software is actually required for the kit.

Looks like that Altera chip gets about a bit, check the following item currently on Marketplace:

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15914

[andoba]

Looks like that Altera chip gets about a bit, check the following item currently on Marketplace:

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15914

That Altera chip is a field programmable gate array chip. Anywho can buy them and code for them.

[Storm]

One way you may be able to gain insight into the purpose of the Dev.Cas unit is to hook it up to a SCSI card and see what it identifies itself or its hardware as when the PC boots

It's not detected as a SCSI device.

[ASSEMbler]

bump

[Blai]

Anyone here won the recent eBay auction?

[raylyd]

which recent eBay auction

[Dreamcast]

It was an auction for the Dev.Cas unit. The seller also had a SDK library disc I hadn't seen before (1.55J, if I recall correctly). Was that a full SDK like R9/10/11a or does the word "library" just mean it had additional device support and updates?

The buyer might be a member here. I suspect that spindle of GD-Rs that sold here a month or two ago is what he / she is slowly selling off. At least if they're a member here, the hardware has a better chance of being properly tested / used.

[raylyd]

heres one on ebay right now
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-DREAMCAST-for-DEVELOPERS-Dev-CAS-HKT-11_W0QQitemZ260371084902QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_G ames?hash=item260371084902&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1687%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

[Storm]

It was an auction for the Dev.Cas unit. The seller also had a SDK library disc I hadn't seen before (1.55J, if I recall correctly). Was that a full SDK like R9/10/11a or does the word "library" just mean it had additional device support and updates?

According to the lore (aka conjecture based on little snippets of information found out there) 1.55J includes at least one GD-R used to boot-strap the Dev.Cas.

Do you still have a link to that auction?

[T_chan]

According to the lore (aka conjecture based on little snippets of information found out there) 1.55J includes at least one GD-R used to boot-strap the Dev.Cas.

Do you still have a link to that auction?
If you use the advanced search of completed listings on ebay.com, you can still find it:
http://cgi.ebay.com/DREAMCAST-SDK-library-Ver-1-55_W0QQitemZ260365408475QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_G ames?hash=item260365408475&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A13|39%3A1|240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.com/DREAMCAST-SDK-library-Ver-1-55_W0QQitemZ260365408475QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_G ames?hash=item260365408475&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A13%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)

[Storm]

Thanks. dreamcasthistory.com had a page about this before it went wonky. We can see it thanks to the Way Back Machine:

http://web.archive.org/web/20041205141538/http://www.dreamcasthistory.com/sdk155.html

BTW: Fuck eBays policy of "protecting buyers identity". This is not the first time I've wanted to contact a seller and ask some questions.


According to the lore (aka conjecture based on little snippets of information found out there) 1.55J includes at least one GD-R used to boot-strap the Dev.Cas.

I'd better kill my own rumour before it get's feet: I've had a quick look at SDK 1.55J now, and it is highly unlikely to help getting the Dev.Cas's running. There is no GD included and it mostly looks like what one would expect from a regular SDK. It's all in Japanese of course, so I could be missing something that might turn up on further analysis.

[T_chan]

I'd better kill my own rumour before it get's feet: I've had a quick look at SDK 1.55J now, and it is highly unlikely to help getting the Dev.Cas's running. There is no GD included and it mostly looks like what one would expect from a regular SDK. It's all in Japanese of course, so I could be missing something that might turn up on further analysis.

Rise from the grave !

I've had a look at the documents of SDK 1.55J, and they do talk about the dev.cas.

I've found two places were they mention it: (translated from jap. into english):
(Note that the SDK 1.55J dates from 07/1999, before the release date of the Dev.Cas)

"Sound Data development environment
- work with the Sound Box (old environment)
The Sound Box is a special system to output sound from SCAT (Sound Creator's Assistant Tools) on the Macintosh. The Sound Box is connected to the Macintosh via SCSI.
- work with the Dev.Cas (new environment. Planned to be released in 09/1999)
The Dev.Cas can be used as replacement of the Sound Box by connecting it to a Dreamcast. After having started the Dev.Cas & transferred the loader,
it becomes equal to the Sound Box seen from the PC."

And:

"
- Sound Box (not produced anymore)
To be connected to a Mac (PPC604 or higher, MacOS 8.0 or higher recommended) via SCSI, to be able to use the Sound Tools.
Accessories: ac adapter, CD-ROM 'Sound Tools'

- Dev. Cas (planned to be released in september)
The Dev.Cas functions as a simple development environment by
connecting to a normal Dreamcast. Cannot be used to create programs
for the Dreamcast, but can be used to check graphical data or create
sound data.
Accessories: normal Dreamcast, ac adapter, SCSI cable, Dreamcast controller, power cable, CD-ROM "Dreamcast SDK (SEGA Library) Vol.1", manual, GD-ROM "Dev.Cas Boot disk"
"

Now if somebody has the Dev.Cas Boot Disk and the "Sound Tools" CD-ROM, I'm interested to test them with my Dev.Cas :)

It would also be interesting if somebody has a SDK more recent than 1.55J...

[Storm]

Ah. Well dug. It would indeed be interesting to try and find the software for this.

[T_chan]

To continue about the dev.cas:
I've started digging in the jap. SDK 1.55 again, and found that the application NJViewer (\dc_graph\graphPC\apply\NinjaViewer) already supported the Dev.Cas in 1.55J:
"NJViewer supports both the "Dev.Box" and the "Dev.Cas". Unless it is specified otherwise, you can replace "Dev.Box" by "Dev.Cas" in all the texts that mention "Dev.Box".

With NJViewer, you can:
- view Models & animations
- view textures
- adjust & view the fog settings

Support for the Dev.Cas already started with NJViewer version 0.95alpha3 (01/04/99), three months before the release of SDK 1.55J

[raylyd]

where could i get my hands on the SDK 1.55J would it work on a 5.24 dev box

[T_chan]

It should work with 5.24, but:
- you have to realize that 1.55J is way older than R11
- because of this, some programs might not work correctly if you have flashed your devkit with the most recent firmware...

Comparison of the two:
Katana SDK R11 Beta February 27, 2001 for SET 5.24
Boot Rom (btr*.bin) : 1.011
GDM Firmware (gm*.fsh) : 2.9.1b
GD Workshop : 2.9.0R
DA Firmware (genie.fsh): 4.9.0a
DB Flash : 1.11
DA-Check : 2.32
S.A.L.S.A Version : 1.40
shinobi.lib :
CodeWarrior IDE : 4.0.6 Build 0524
Codescape : 2.3.0.197

Katana SDK 1.55J August 3, 1999 for SET 5.2
Boot Rom (btr*.bin) : 1.011
GDM Firmware (gm*.fsh) : 2.7.0c
GD Workshop : 2.7.0D
DA Firmware (genie.fsh): 4.6.0a
DB Flash : 1.11
DA-Check : 2.2
S.A.L.S.A Version : 1.28
shinobi.lib :
CodeWarrior IDE : 3.3.6 Build 0310 Japanese and 3.3.4 Build 0260 US
Codescape : 2.2.0.137

Since 1.55J is way older, I guess NjViewer could be found in the EUR or US SDK, but I can't confirm that...

As where to buy it... as usual, at an auction or from somebody else...

[Kron]

Ladies and Gentlemen, DevCas software...

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4847/monaka9999img600x450127.jpg

[T_chan]

Ladies and Gentlemen, DevCas software...


Yeah, was bidding on that one... ended too high for me though :(

[Adam_K]

Do you have a link to the auction? Regardless if it ended or not.

[Dreamcast]

:clap:. Do you have a Dev.Cas unit to try it out on?

[raylyd]

wow that looks cool

[Storm]

Nice!

Why does all the action happen while I'm on vacation?


Yeah, was bidding on that one... ended too high for me though :(

How much did it go for?

[T_chan]

over 60.000 yen with a dev.cas if I remember correctly...

Since I think you can't boot the dev.cas with the SCAT disk, it was over the budget for me...

[Adam_K]

The disc and the unit sold for roughly $685?

[Kron]

Finished at 61,500yen so $703 (£450.50)

[Adam_K]

For the unit and the disc or just the disc?

[Kron]

DevCas Unit + DC + Disc.

[Adam_K]

Ah all right, cool.

[LeGIt]

I don't think it's a coincidence these 2 items turned up together.

The 9 pin serial looking port on the front of the HKT-11 Dev.Cas should connect to the HKT-07 C1/C2 address checker.

I saw the Mac OS SCAT2 disc, but out of interest, has anyone tried the Dev.Cas with the CodeScape's ASE Mode Trace Profiler feature of R9/R10 Katana SDK? From what I gather it should wor fine if you hook it up to your dev PC via SCSI.

Also does anyone still have more detailed pics under the hood as the links are down?

Oh and FYI - the test points for the C1/C2 addresses to build your own homebrew Dev.Cas are underneath the Dreamcast motherboard. They are arranged to look like a 9 pin serial connector (without actually being serial, but G1 bus address lines) just above IC105. I'm currently mapping every single test point which will take weeks to complete my rough draft but hopefully this will help or encourage someone to dig deeper :)

[-=FamilyGuy=-]

Here's all I got:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/_FamilyGuy_/th_DSCN1023.jpg (http://s84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/_FamilyGuy_/?action=view&current=DSCN1023.jpg)http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/_FamilyGuy_/th_DSCN1024.jpg (http://s84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/_FamilyGuy_/?action=view&current=DSCN1024.jpg)http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/_FamilyGuy_/th_DSCN1025.jpg (http://s84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/_FamilyGuy_/?action=view&current=DSCN1025.jpg)http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/_FamilyGuy_/th_DSCN1027.jpg (http://s84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/_FamilyGuy_/?action=view&current=DSCN1027.jpg)http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/_FamilyGuy_/th_DSCN1028.jpg (http://s84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/_FamilyGuy_/?action=view&current=DSCN1028.jpg)
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Most of the board scans are courtesy of Mark300001, which disapeared off the internet some years ago for unknown reason!

[LeGIt]

Most of those are Set 2.1, Set 5 or GD Writer :P I spotted this from the 5.24 which looks familiar though:


http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/_FamilyGuy_/th_hkt01_internal_05.jpg (http://s84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/_FamilyGuy_/?action=view&current=hkt01_internal_05.jpg)
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/_FamilyGuy_/th_hkt01_internal_06.jpg (http://s84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/_FamilyGuy_/?action=view&current=hkt01_internal_06.jpg)

I assume the C1/C2 port for the Dev.cas is pretty similar if not the same.

The pics I was referring to are in Post #14 (http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?15273-Hard-C1-Checker-and-Dev-Cas-HKT-11&p=235383&viewfull=1#post235383) BTW. No one got these? :(

[T_chan]

I saw the Mac OS SCAT2 disc, but out of interest, has anyone tried the Dev.Cas with the CodeScape's ASE Mode Trace Profiler feature of R9/R10 Katana SDK? From what I gather it should wor fine if you hook it up to your dev PC via SCSI.

Unfortunately, it won't work.

Without the dev.cas boot disc, the dev.cas is not recognized at all.
I suppose the dev.cas boot disc initializes the scsi controller chip on the dev.cas, after which the dev.cas should be recognized.

Note that the SCAT discs are different from the boot discs.
The SCAT discs are cd-roms, not gd-r, and only contain pc-side software.