Sending stuff to Paris from Japan IMPORTANT !

[Yakumo]

If anyone is going to send anything to Paris (so far the only place in France that has this rule) you MUST include the receivers phone number ! Most if not all countries don't care if there's a phone number or not however as of recently the French government have stated that all parcels going to Paris via recorded mail such as EMS MUST have the receivers telephone number otherwise the parcel will be returned to the sender.

This happened to me today and what's stupid is that the Japanese post office didn't even know ! It was the sorting office at Fukuoka Airport that told them :rolleyes:

Yakumo

[GaijinPunch]

There's a post office in Shibuya that says Canada is getting assholish about something like that (might be about contents, not phone number). Thanks for the heads up though.

[Adol]

Well,that's not true.
Chronopost, the delivery company in france for EMS foreign packages, want it because it is easier for contacting people if there is problems in delivery.
But it is not a "rule" at all. I can send Chronopost packages in France (from France) without writing the phone number on it,and it'll be perfectly delivered.
It is just a "precaution",and the guy who told that by phone is just quite strict,that's it. Another one wouldn't tick.

[GaijinPunch]

But it is not a "rule" at all.

Apparently it is a rule in Japan. Rules in France are a mute point if the package will never get there... although I've sent many packages w/ no phone numbers on them.

[sven666]

thats a japanese rule then because i never have to when i ship to paris...

altho to be honest it doesnt hurt, postal services in most of europe is a mess :DOH:

[port187]

Same shyt for Spain, all parcels not only EMS.. received my package back last year after they forgot to inform me on this :P

[Yakumo]

it's a new rule, Adol for stuff going to Paris from another country. Nothing to do with stuff from another part of France to Paris.

Yakumo

[unclejun]

Sorry for that Yakumo, I have sent you a PM.

[AntiPasta]

thats a japanese rule then because i never have to when i ship to paris...

altho to be honest it doesnt hurt, postal services in most of europe is a mess :DOH:

What makes you think that?

[Adol]

it's a new rule, Adol for stuff going to Paris from another country. Nothing to do with stuff from another part of France to Paris.

Yakumo

No, it is not.
I receive dozens of packages around the world,and no one asked me my phone number.
By airmail,by Fedex,by DHL,by EMS,etc..

It is a rule which, i don't know why, apply in Japan.
But french authorities don't care about it.That's just an "help" for contacting the guy if there is a custom or delivery problem
Otherwise they just send you a letter, which of course is longer than a phone call.

[Yakumo]

Hmm, I received a letter from the Japanese postthat I will scfan if anyone wishes to read it. It's all in Japanese mind you. I seems strange that the Japanese will only single out Paris yet any other world capital or any other part of France seem to be uneffected. Well, apart from Canadian post being a bit of a pain at times.

Yakumo

[Taucias]

What makes you think that?

It really is dude. Not all of Europe, but most of it is a real PITA to get post too.

[AntiPasta]

Hmm, never noticed any of that... maybe it's if you're outside the EU?

[Jamtex]

The moral of the story is to make sure you fill out the EMS forms correctly and write telephone numbers in them.

[GaijinPunch]

I wouldn't dare to count the number of EMS parcels I've sent over the years. hundreds. Never once did I put a phone number other than mine on there.

[Yakumo]

Nither did I until this Paris one unless the sender requested me top do so.

Yakumo

[Dr_Slump]

Oh God, how stupid of them.

[Tomcat]

Welcome to the french way of life, they want all the boxes filled in correctly. Ts crossed and Is dotted.

[GaijinPunch]

What about P's & Q's minded?

[Adol]

Welcome to the french way of life, they want all the boxes filled in correctly. Ts crossed and Is dotted.

Typical British comment.Always funny.

[Tomcat]

Based on 2 years of living and working in Toulouse. Its a fact of life.

[Adol]

Based on 2 years of living and working in Toulouse. Its a fact of life.

Yeah compared to 27 years of living and growing in france,it's really a fact of life :)

As i said,always funny.

[GaijinPunch]

I would say 2 years is ample to assess damage. One even.

[Tomcat]

One such example was working nights, out team was denied access to a plane because our "Fishe D`Intervention" or permit to work, was not signed by Quality/Safety inspector. Even thro the plane was safe - no power on/dry fuel tanks. In the Uk most planes have a Board up stating what tests are being carried out and where its ok to work with out having the permit to work.

Or another is wearing bump caps - you can get sacked here for not wearing them - doesnt matter your working in tight spaces where is dam impossible to wear it. In the uk its your choice to wear it.

35 working hours...

[GaijinPunch]

Appropriately for this part of the forum though, by reputation, nobody comes even close to the Japanese in terms of anal retentive. I've had forms where multiple pages have to be signed in multiple places. Like 15 signatures for one stupid thing.

Although they will, on average, clock in close to double 35 hours. How much is work is another story.

[Yakumo]

Japan, world capital for anal bull shit. Drives you mad, I can tell you. What makes it worse is when you ask why something must be done they can never give an answer because they don't know. Most of the time you get "It's the Japanese way" WTF is that meant to mean?

Yakumo

[sven666]

Although they will, on average, clock in close to double 35 hours. How much is work is another story.

exactly, while they certainly do the hours they dont do shit while theyre there, it must be a nightmare to be an executve in japan what with contantly having to tell people what their work is and what they should do:DOH:

it always baffles me how someone can think working hard is getting in long hours instead of getting shit done.. :rolleyes: the myth that japanese are so efficient is only because theyre 10 people working on a one-man task..

[GaijinPunch]

The myth of them being efficient is for people that have never been to a Japanese office. They are well known for being creative when it comes to book keeping and statistics... how much work each one gets done is another story. There are some that truly bust their balls 12 hours a day. There are plenty that stick around until 10PM playing Free Cell b/c they don't want to go home and listen to their wife.

[sven666]

There are plenty that stick around until 10PM playing Free Cell b/c they don't want to go home and listen to their wife.

:lol: i guess thats true.. and yeah i didnt mean to slate off the entire japanese population as being lazy bums with my previous post ofcourse.

btw, shmups is down?