Sonic Xtreme - fundraising thread, archived.

[ASSEMbler]

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After almost a year of discussion and negotiation, the owner of the Sega
Nights version of Sonic Xtreme has agreed to a release!!

He decided that the game should be public for everyone to experience. I
would like to say that he is a really dedicated collector, wants no credit
and isn't even asking to recoup the full amount he paid.

He considers the $$$$ he's losing a donation towards THIS COMMUNITY.
He holds what we do and discuss here in such high regard.

So without much delay, the terms!

A slight hex change to the game to remove a name.
This is noted in a changes.txt file on the iso.
Why? This keeps people from being fired ,and keeps the original
copy unique. It also keeps away the ebay pirates. If a copy is ever
burned / sold ,even on Sega Saturn cdr, the change can be detected.

Funds - $2000 USD.

It seems like a lot, but we are a community. There are a LOT of us, and if
you're as excited as I am, we will soon have the holy grail of Saturn within
our grasp.

I am really hoping we can pull together and get this done.

"How do I donate?"

Funds will be accepted by paypal.

In order to prevent the freezing of the account by paypal, we will use
ebay. Paypal only allows donations to registered not for profit
organizations. However there is a workaround, a dutch auction for a $5.60
consultation will go up in the professional services area.

This is the auction link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150127248262

With the effort of this community, this fundraiser should not be hard.
The donation is really $5.00 with the additional $0.60 going towards
the ebay and paypal fees.

This works out to only a $5.00 donation per person, please feel free to give
whatever you like. Anything over $2000 will go into a war chest.

$10 would be two items (buy two)
$20 would be four
etc.

This paypal account belongs to a friend, so if you send him an e-mail he'll
just try to sell you pawned beanie babies. :katamari: If you have any questions
just ask me via PM.

Anyone can donate, but this discussion is open only to this community.
This is a hidden forum, no one else can read this post or be added to this
forum. This group was selected and made last week, no new registrants
can be added. I will not acknowledge that this post exists outside of this forum.

We all remember the problems we had last time. That was because I was
only the middle man and it was out in the open. This time it's private,
hidden, and best of all, the owner and I have a friendship and trust.

So in front of me, on my desk, is the game. That is how serious this is.
This IS going to happen. This is not a discussion, it is an ANNOUNCEMENT.

Release:

Upon completion of the goal, the funds will be held for a period of two
weeks to allow for any credit card scams to be detected and dealt with.
On the 14th day, the game will be available for immediate download
to the people WHO DONATED.

As part of the agreement, the game will be torrented to prevent profiteering.
However, this may not happen for almost a month. Participation has rewards.

I ask for all of your cooperation in not violating this waiting period.
This wait is so that people in the community who have donated can make videos
and screencaps for news articles and web sites.

I know some of you are probably pumping your fists in the air, are numb with
disbelief, or are still re-reading this to make sure it's real. This is some
great stuff, and reflects the new goal of this site to uncover, share and
preserve these rare games.

[Barc0de]

I can unearth my Saturn for this piece of history hopefully. Great work Kevin, and thanks for going through the trouble of releasing this controversial title.

I look forward to a release and I m sure there are many of us willing to donate.

[Yakumo]

Are you going to post in this thread once the Ebay "auction" goes up? I'm really looking forward to this. From reading the post I gather it's fine to make a video of the game for my site? It will go well on the new hosting I've just bought with terrabytes of bandwidth :)

Yakumo

[LuckyToke]

Wow, thanks to the owner and ASSEMbler making this release possible.

I am not a huge sonic or nights fan but this release will be huge for the ASSEMbler community. - I'm suprised and honored to be granted access to this!

I will happy contribute for releases such as these!

Keep up the great work guys! :thumbsup:

[graciano1337]

Saturn
I've gotta get one quick!! :nod:

[Juste]

I would be really happy to donate. (^_^)

Thank you very much to your friend and yourself ASSEMbler, this community is the best ever! (^_^)

[XxHennersXx]

OH MY GOD

SWEET MOTHER OF JESUS I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING! I will definatly be donating...

[karsten]

GREAT NEWS! Compliments, for your efforts, kevin!

[chandler_455]

thanks for your hard work

[klarth]

awesome!! I'll definitely help pitch in.

[TheDeathcoaster]

Man, I was hoping for Biohazard 1.5 :P But I suppose this will do ;) Nice Work Kevin! And thanks to the owner too :)

[unclejun]

I'll donate even though I don't have a Saturn...yet.

[ASSEMbler]

you could always play it on an emulator

[devilredeemed]

yep will drop some dollars on it for donation purposes. great stuff.

[marshallh]

Wow... I am XTREMEly suprised, hehe.

May be a good excuse for me to get a Saturn finally.

Great job!

[APE]

Which version are we talking about here? That Jade Gully tech demo or is it something more complete?

Either way $5 is definately getting chipped in.

Pardon my ignorance but right after the fake iso by those jackasses my interest took a nose dive.

[handofg0d]

I'm speechless at the moment.
Many thanks for all your effort!

[fiber]

This was some pretty surprising news to wake up to.

I'm all for new Sonic material before Sonic Team decided to repeatedly beat the franchise over the head, even if Sonic Xtreme's fisheye will probably give me a headache. I will certainly be donating!

[olivieryuyu]

i will definitely donate :-)

[ASSEMbler]

This isn't very convincing, I need people willing to help get this done.

Who is interested?

[diddydonn]

consider me in, ill donate a few £££ even though i no longer own a saturn

[XxHennersXx]

This isn't very convincing, I need people willing to help get this done.

Who is interested?

5-10 dollars coming from me, and possibly graciano1337

[kammedo]

Considering the fact I dont own a saturn actually, and I never donated something to the site at all makes me think its time to start. 5 bucks (last buy chopped my funds sadly) from me for sure.

EDIT : also, I think its a nice way to thank Kevin for this 0th bit thing. :P

[Barc0de]

please elaborate on the interpretation of help? =)

[opethfan]

I'll chip in, my bank account has a bit of leverage I'm willing to part with.

[wheelaa]

Cool beans

[Mr. Rare]

I'll put in $5 at least.

[wombat]

Atm my paypal account is closed becouse someone tried to break-in my account. However once I get in again, I'll donate aswell.

THIS IS GREAT NEWS!

[karsten]

This isn't very convincing, I need people willing to help get this done.

Who is interested?

I'll obviously donate a 5$ (not more because i can't play it on my Saturn... i have only a 3rd party bootdisc...)

[cha345cha]

Thanks for all your effort (and to the owner too). I'll donate.

[Joe Sancho]

I'll donate.
Thanks a lot Assembler.

[3do]

This sound great and like other people i shall gladly donte

[Dot50Cal]

You have my support as always, More than 5$ worth of course :)

Anxious to see how the support turns out, It'll surely influence other posters to donate/release stuff :)

[d4s]

count me in.

[Garlo]

Count me in, too. I'm a bit broke until july, but I can certainly put a few bucks towards this exciting goal. By the way, is it possible to run Xtreme without modding a Saturn? Kinda like a swap disk or something? My PC is waay to slow for emulators (Daytona runs at about 4 FPS)

[ASSEMbler]

The auction is up:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150127248262

[Dr_Slump]

I would be happy to donate $100.

[karsten]

The auction is up:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150127248262

ehm is the link ok? i'm ready to donate if it is the right one :P

edited: i mean that plastic support etc etc

[ASSEMbler]

Yes it's fine.

[karsten]

"bought" it. for saying so. wasn't it better to make a buy it now? this way it'll get payed later and people might even forget about it...

edited: just 5.6$..i know it's little, but i won't be able to play it. it's fro the community and the next ones to come :)

[pitsunami]

Ok done...looking forward to play it. :110:

[ASSEMbler]

You can't do dutch buy it now until youhave like 500 feedback...

[3do]

I shall place a bid right now of $10

[karsten]

oh, i see. everything is clear now. he'll get up to 500 soon this way :D in a couple of releases :)

[karsten]

oh! i have to compliment with our mod, dot50cal. really generous from him! :clap:

by the way, on ebay i'm azi-dahaka and i could use a positive feedback after the auction :D

[graciano1337]

I will be donating one week from Wednesday.

[ASSEMbler]

please read the way to bid in the OP.

Some people are bidding $10 and should be buying two ($5x2)
instead.

[Dot50Cal]

oh! i have to compliment with our mod, dot50cal. really generous from him! :clap:

by the way, on ebay i'm azi-dahaka and i could use a positive feedback after the auction :D
Aww shucks, If I can help some people get the game in their hands then all the better. I dont much care for sonic nor Xtreme but I can see that it is a part of history, one that I'd prefer gets out to people.

To everyone:

A dutch auction like this; There are 500 available at the price of 5.60$. Since the lowest possible bid is 5.60$ EVERYONE will pay this amount PER the number they request. The only way this wont happen is if we get over all 500 sold. Where the lowest bid (5.60) will then move up to the next lowest.

Basically what Im saying here is ONLY BID 5.60 PER ITEM! If you wish to donate more (10$) then please bid for 2 at the 5.60 price point, etc etc. :thumbsup:

if you pledge more than this and only bid on one, you will still only be paying 5.60! To all those that didnt do that, dont worry. But please anymore, only give 5.60 per quantity.

Example: I wanted to pledge 50.00

I bid $5.60 for 10 of the sets. This brings it to $56.00.

[la-li-lu-le-lo]

Whoops, sorry Dot50Cal, I read that post right after I bid. I'm laliluleloman, by the way, in case that wasn't already obvious.

Really glad that you're doing this ASSEMbler. I hope everybody on ASSEMblergames donates.

Also, I'm just curious; what are you going to do if somebody actually wants to buy a reinforced plastic support?

[3do]

oops sorry i didn't realise i had not done it right but i'm andrew-30 if anyone wants to know

[opethfan]

I want to donate, but I'm not quite 18 yet, and eBay\PayPal say I have to be. I'd also really rather not lie on anything financial, I don't want my bank account being closed or anything, especially since I'm in a different country to the bank I'm with. Unless a few here say I can get away with it?

[yuckymucky]

Do we need to keep the PayPal reciept to prove that we made the purchase? My eBay name isn't anything close to my name on here so I am assuming that is the only way to prove donation?

[ASSEMbler]

all the donation e-mails get the link via thepaypal email

[XxHennersXx]

okay, I donated 10 dollars. My eBay account is XxHennersXx but my Paypal is different. so my Paypal email is going to get the link right when the auction is done?

[ASSEMbler]

Yes.

We only need $1900 more.

[Barc0de]

what if some people accidentaly buy this item in good faith? O_o

[Dot50Cal]

I doubt that would happen (pay close attention to the model number), but if it did it would be refunded an a new auction set up with the remainder needed.

[ASSEMbler]

Odds of that are about the same as finding osama bin ladin
in a marine corp barracks eating a ham sandwich.

[Barc0de]

he can't eat ham sandwiches, it would be haram! - which explains the point , statistics are on our side!

[Nitro734]

This is fantastic! I have less love for the blue headgehog then I would like, and I don't even own a Saturn. But I support these rare gems being unearthed and reaching the arms of fans.

Donated.

[ASSEMbler]

$1860 keep it coming. I hope we can hit 1k barrier tonight.

[Azraelscross]

thats quite a large announcment thar. next paycheck i'll donate some bucks*first time i would have ever donated to anything.haha*

[fiber]

My ebay name is cfasand and I fully expect my 4 plastic support pieces when this auction is over.

[CrAzY]

This is very cool. Now only problem is I am to young to own a Ebay or Paypal account... :crying: But I will try and make a transaction with my parents, see if I can get a donation in. :nod:
Thanks for all the donations so far! Hope we can fulfill this! :thumbsup:

[Dot50Cal]

Great job guys! Keep it up! :)

[Azraelscross]

This is very cool. Now only problem is I am to young to own a Ebay or Paypal account... :crying: But I will try and make a transaction with my parents, see if I can get a donation in. :nod:
Thanks for all the donations so far! Hope we can fulfill this! :thumbsup: i was too young too back when i was 16.haha never bought too much though

[opethfan]

i was too young too back when i was 16.haha never bought too much though

Yeah....I signed up for PayPal, but as I'm living in Canada, but my bank's in the UK, I can't even transfer funds! Aargh! I just want to donate!

[ASSEMbler]

You don't need a full account to pay, you can just use the shopping cart.

All you need is a basic ebay account and a credit card.

Basic paypal sending limit is like $300.

[ASSEMbler]

$1775 left to go. Way to go people.

[XxHennersXx]

i might..."buy two more plastic supports" sometime later...depends on how much every one donates. It'll stretch my pockets a little bit but dammit, i want to see this game!

[Dot50Cal]

You don't need a full account to pay, you can just use the shopping cart.

All you need is a basic ebay account and a credit card.

Basic paypal sending limit is like $300.

Seriously? I had no idea....That should make selling on ebay a whole lot beter.

[APE]

My bid has been placed.

eBay ID: APE992

[opethfan]

Done, I signed up on eBay with my old British address and a wrong age (what are they gonna do about it?) and I've placed my bid. You'd think they make things a bit easier for those of us who have international bank accounts, wouldn't ya?

Anyways, I'm kieranopethfan.

[Garlo]

Placed bid (garlomx)

[Dot50Cal]

Good deal guys!

Who is Russel here? Really generous of you! Thanks!

[Dr_Slump]

My ID is russellnicolas, I expect 22 penis enlargers (20 for me and 2 for Barc0de). LOL
You are welcome Dot50Cal :)

[CrAzY]

Awesome Dr_Slump! Very generous of you! :thumbsup:

[ASSEMbler]

$1675 left to go, and we are only on day one. If we can average 300 a day
we can make it for sure.

[Haruglory]

When will i get my Plastic support, reinforced, 11inches. Model S0-N1-C ? :D

[ASSEMbler]

It's in the mail

[cez]

just bid on two. this will look good in my plastic support collection. :)

ebay-id: digizombie

[unclejun]

Bid on 5 of those "things"
id: ivy.17

Kev, how did you choose the item?

[ASSEMbler]

I just thought of something so boring, and so ugly that no one would bid by accident. It is also in the completely wrong catagory.

$1615 left to go.

[unclejun]

Is it an actual item you or your friend own, or have you only stole the link from the actual item, wich is http://www.thehowlandcompany.com/columns.htm?

[Joe Sancho]

I have bought 4.
I hope they fit my phone.

eBay ID: ensambladorz80

[d4s]

bought 3 of em.
my ebay id is: datenoppa

dont care too much for sonic, but i cant wait to get my hands on these plastic support thingies.

[kammedo]

Bid on one of those.
6 $ bucks.
ID kammedo

[LuckyToke]

Just got 2, ebay id: mark.field123.

Thanks again guys, cant wait, and hopefully this is the first of many releases!:icon_bigg

[Haruglory]

forgot to write my ebay-id : dirlo90

[Yakumo]

20 dollars on it's way :thumbsup:

Yakumo

[marshallh]

$5 from me. ebay ID rhechtfoundry

[Funk Buddy]

I'm in.

[drx]

A very nifty idea with this auction.

"You are currently the high bidder for the following item. Plastic support, reinforced, 11inches. Model S0-N1-C" (http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29393-2357-0?uid=128465381&site=0&ver=BCA080805&lk=ItemDescriptionANDimage&Item=150127248262)

[WindowsKiller]

"bought" two (retrogamer_de)

[Joe Sancho]

Come on, people that have bought one, buy another super rare reinforced support for your collection.

[kholdfuzion]

Bought 2, Ebay id is kholdfuzion, will buy more if I can afford before end.

[ASSEMbler]

Nearly at $1500.

[XxHennersXx]

in 6 days when the auction is near over i'll pitch in more money than i have if its not there yet.

[karsten]

i'll take other 2-3 before the end if it won't be enough for the release, even if i can't play it.

i doesn't want to void the chance of something else after this to get released...

i hope something more appealing (for me) will pop up... that time i'll have up to 100 euros ready :)

[smokingjawa]

Pair for me please!
ebay id: morecoffeeman

Will add to that once i work out my funds!

Keep up the good work chaps!

[XxHennersXx]

Is it weird last night i dreamed that this only had 200 left to go? and was like "COME ON COME ON EVERYONE! PITCH IN A LITTLE BIT MORE!"

[AntiPasta]

F*ck it, I just want to buy one of those supports - they look like some absurdist work of art :D

Seriously, a question that hasn't been answered yet: which of the gazillion alleged versions is this?

[Muffinman943]

I expect my support to be here in about a week

[ASSEMbler]

It's the nights version, as discussed in the OP

$1515 left to go.

[karsten]

It's the nights version, as discussed in the OP

OP?

[sabre470]

It's the nights version, as discussed in the OP

$1515 left to go.

minus $16.80

Sabre

[ServiceGames]

It's astonishing to me that most all of us will go out and pay $50 for something modern, but when the stuff of legends is well within our grasp a $5 donation becomes cumbersome.

Don't get me wrong, I praise everyone here who has donated already and those also who plan on doing so in the near future.

Anyone who hasn't donated ought to do so as a courtesy to others as well as yourselves. Perhaps Sonic eXtreme does not 'tickle your fancy' but if this does not work out then future efforts will be severly crippled. And hell, there just might be something down the line that will realy floor us all. ;)

History folks.. It's history that we are attempting to preserve here and I for one think we ought to pick up the pace and suffocate this thread with money!!

-ServiceGames-

[jdc98]

Another $28 for the pot.

[wheelaa]

Another 5 for my collection ;-). Hope they go up in value more than a Euro Kizuna otherwise my retirement plan is up s*** creek.

[ASSEMbler]

$1450 to go, we're a quarter of the way!

[Yakumo]

I'm still waiting for my mail to pay the guy via paypal :(

yakumo

[XxHennersXx]

okay guys, I've decided. I'm going to put in 25 more dollars.

[Buyatari]

Sonic sucks..

Just put down for 1.

[Twimfy]

I'm dropping $40-ish in the pot 2moro morning, this is so exciting i'm getting spasms...

Oh, and afaik, the Nights engine version is the one where we see sonic moving around on a green field with no fish eye.

[ASSEMbler]

When the auction ends in a few days, that is when the invoices are sent.

[graciano1337]

I just donated. I don't know if it's possible, but if the auction was extended until Wednesday I'd be able to donate more...

[Nitrosoxide]

Very Very cool! I'm quite excited this is happening and I'll definitely throw a donation in when I get the chance (I have a flight back home tommorrow so I probably do it soon after) .

But, this is quite exciting! Im quite the sonic Xtreme fanatic, reading the history of the whole thing. In fact, I've probably seen most images and videos released related to the darn thing! So I'm very excited


Unfortunately I don't have a saturn.... I wonder what emu this will play best on...

PS: to the guy who said that this ain't biohazard 1.5, Hopefully, next time :p. I'll probably shit myself if that happened, knowing that, the thing was 80% complete, and probably very very playable as a game.

EDIT: I relooked at the auction. The title's jokez ! at first I'm like "what the heck does "ONE S0-N1-C plastic support" then I'm just like ohhhhh! " S0-N1-C = sonic. The fact that, that took me lik 10 mins makes me feel so moronic.

[ASSEMbler]

I f we don't have enough in a week, we'll re-list it.

$1425 left to go.

[Nitrosoxide]

Count me in, too. I'm a bit broke until july, but I can certainly put a few bucks towards this exciting goal. By the way, is it possible to run Xtreme without modding a Saturn? Kinda like a swap disk or something? My PC is waay to slow for emulators (Daytona runs at about 4 FPS)
Ya, racketboy.com had a pretty good article on it a while back...

http://www.racketboy.com/retro/2004/12/learn-how-to-perform-sega-saturn-swap.html

Kind of a nusiance though, but hey it works.

PS: sorry for the off topic bit there.

[Dr_Slump]

By the way guys, I don't recommend you to leave feedback, especially without leaving some time to... receive those things. It could attract curiosity, you know.

[karsten]

It's astonishing to me that most all of us will go out and pay $50 for something modern, but when the stuff of legends is well within our grasp a $5 donation becomes cumbersome.

Don't get me wrong, I praise everyone here who has donated already and those also who plan on doing so in the near future.

Anyone who hasn't donated ought to do so as a courtesy to others as well as yourselves. Perhaps Sonic eXtreme does not 'tickle your fancy' but if this does not work out then future efforts will be severly crippled. And hell, there just might be something down the line that will realy floor us all. ;)

History folks.. It's history that we are attempting to preserve here and I for one think we ought to pick up the pace and suffocate this thread with money!!

-ServiceGames-

that is the real point. lots of people are donating just because they want to help the community play his first "ACE", and not because they're great fans of the game... also lots of them have no means of playing it...

i probably can't play it because i just have a 3rd party bootdisc, and i've donated just 5$, if i'll see there's the need because there won't be enogh donation i'll put in other 20$.

also your example of buying a new game for 50$is funny :D

let's keep up the good work people! i know we can reach it, but it's normal that the more interested people are, they more they bet ;)

[XxHennersXx]

when i donated my 25 dollars, my previous 10 dissappeared from the auction history. o_O why?

[ASSEMbler]

Did you bid $10 on one , or buy two.

You need to buy one per $5 donation. There's no point in bidding $20 on one.

If you want $10 =2x
If you want $20 = 4x

So when you bid and it says quantity, bid 4 more. (if you've only bid once so far)

[ASSEMbler]

I'll post pictures later on today, perhaps is it will get people motivated.

[karsten]

I'll post pictures later on today, perhaps is it will get people motivated.

:thumbsup: really a great idea. needless to say that they shouldn't wander around, right?

[Parris]

I just need to establish a few things. How many people are included in this as $5 is a small donation and $2000 is a lot of cash? Also not being a tight fisted guy or anything, but what would happen (for instance) if the "column" turned out to be a dud? Not in this instance as you seem to have done your homework, but in future is someones eyes were too big for their belly and they made a $2000 mistake?

Just curious as frankly, I grill anyone asking me for money lol

I'm also without a Saturn (it died ages ago), but they are pretty cheap to buy so count me in too. However, like a few others on here I have limit funds thanks in part to me just starting a college course (yes, old people can go back into education). ;-)

So, I shall gladly donate $12 and figure out how to get it to you. Does that seem fair enough?

What about in future having a raffle for this kind of thing? You could even do it in the general forums. One of those amazing Acclaim pieces, or something donated by any of the members of this group could be offered as a raffle prize on the general forum and the amount raised used as capital towards this particular area of interest. Just a thought.

Added 2 x $5.60 to the pot
eBay username: ministry_of_retro
I'll have to figure out payment via postal as I don't use PayPal.

[karsten]

What about in future having a raffle for this kind of thing? You could even do it in the general forums. One of those amazing Acclaim pieces, or something donated by any of the members of this group could be offered as a raffle prize on the general forum and the amount raised used as capital towards this particular area of interest. Just a thought.

the game is considered to ba a prize itself, and being here in this forum is another one. for what concerns acclaim stuff, you shouldn't plan on someone else's ownings :D

[Twimfy]

Totally confused with the bid system. I bid once for 1 at $5.60 then went back again and bid 5.60 x2. But according to my ebay account (aircompressors btw) I'm bidding on one item at $11.20

???

[Parris]

the game is considered to ba a prize itself, and being here in this forum is another one. for what concerns acclaim stuff, you shouldn't plan on someone else's ownings :D

Not entirely sure what you mean mate?

1) The game is being "bought" by the community for the community. We are "donating" which means as a general rule we are allowed to ask questions. If you don't have small print, clearly defined rules, then someone is bound to screw things up for everyone else. No single person is being singled out, I am just merely asking for clarification.

2) I don't know the hard work that has gone into securing this software, but from what I gather it is substantial and of course it's a priviledge to be considered part of that, however as with above, I am entitled to ask questions and you've misunderstood what I wrote...

3) ...the "prize" I was talking about was a means of raising funds! In other words, donations "from anyone" which includes me (trust me, if the right software title comes up, I would lay one of my nuts on the line) in the "general forums". In other words, the 0thbit can't be spoken about anywhere else so you aren't going to go into the general forums and say "We are donating this item in order to get X software". Catch my drift?

4) ...is there ANYONE here on the forum who doesn't own something from Acclaim? lol I was just giving an example, not asking someone to donate their stuff. If it comes to it, I'll make the first donation to show willing man.

I am trying to contribute for the community good

I have donated for a second

please don't jump to the wrong conclusions.

[Yakumo]

Come on everyone. $5 is nothing ! especially to those of us outside of the US due to the poor rate the dollars has. I recon everyone here could spare 10 dollars without breaking a sweat.

Yakumo

[Parris]

Wouldn't it be ironic if a cell company suddenly decided it needed 500 plastic test supports.... :banghead:

[ASSEMbler]

I just need to establish a few things. How many people are included in this as $5 is a small donation and $2000 is a lot of cash? Also not being a tight fisted guy or anything, but what would happen (for instance) if the "column" turned out to be a dud? Not in this instance as you seem to have done your homework, but in future is someones eyes were too big for their belly and they made a $2000 mistake?

Just curious as frankly, I grill anyone asking me for money lol

I'm also without a Saturn (it died ages ago), but they are pretty cheap to buy so count me in too. However, like a few others on here I have limit funds thanks in part to me just starting a college course (yes, old people can go back into education). ;-)

So, I shall gladly donate $12 and figure out how to get it to you. Does that seem fair enough?

What about in future having a raffle for this kind of thing? You could even do it in the general forums. One of those amazing Acclaim pieces, or something donated by any of the members of this group could be offered as a raffle prize on the general forum and the amount raised used as capital towards this particular area of interest. Just a thought.

Added 2 x $5.60 to the pot
eBay username: ministry_of_retro
I'll have to figure out payment via postal as I don't use PayPal.

We've already seen what the game is. This is the same game
that sold for over $2500 no more than a year ago.

$2000 breaks down to about 400 people giving $5, or 200 people giving $10.00 each.

This is like owning biohazard 1.5 or similar. This is incredible stuff, and if it
fails to excite you because you don't own a $10 gaming console then
quite frankly I'm puzzled. What you're saying defies the very reason for
being here in the first place.

I'll put it to you this way, if this isn't exciting, what is?
You are never going to see something as rare as this
as long as you live.

[Barc0de]

Kevin, is there a playable level(s) ? :D

[ASSEMbler]

Yes, it is.

http://assemblergames.com/images/sonicx/sonicx.gif
http://www.lostlevels.org/stuff/xtreme/01.jpg

This is not a full game, it is the original nights engine version that was pitched
to sega of Japan, that sonic team sawand went apeshit over the use of the
nights engine, and made them use their own custom engine (fisheye).

There is no saturn version left existing except this, this is the only copy existing.

There is a PC version of the fisheye game, but it's mostly stuff added on
in revent years.

I'll make some videos and pictures, but so far the lack of excitement
is disappointing. I understand that we might not be sonic fans
and that could be a problem.

That is one reason why I set the auction for a week.
If we do terribly, and don't get close I am just going to pull the plug.
However that probably means the game will never see the light of day.

I have the game here, in my hands. If this takes six months, it takes six months.
Some of you weren't here for the giant shitstorm that hit last time, and that is
why it is hidden away.

We could probably raise the money in a few hours if it were out in the open.

However, the chaos and bitter feuding isn't worth it.

[Marv]

+1 Bid for me.

[wheelaa]

I'll maker some videos and pictures, but so far the lack of excitement
is disappointing. I understand that we might not be sonic fans
and that could be a problem.

That is one reason why I set the auction for a week.
If we do terribly, and don't get close I am just going to pull the plug.
However that probably means the game will never see the light of day.

I have the game here, in my hands. If this takes six months, it takes six months.
Some of you weren't here for the giant shitstorm that hit last time, and that is
why it is hidden away.

We could probably raise the money in a few hours if it were out in the open.

However, the chaos and bitter feuding isn't worth it.

Amen to that! All the grief here last time this 'emerged' is something I'm sure noone wants repeated!

We'll get there though for sure. We're over $700 as it is..and I (and many other exisiting contributors) will be happy to chip in more if needs be. So please don't pull the plug lol!

As you say its sonic, so unless you're a fan you're going to be less inclined to chip in. I'm guessing that's why it might be slower than you were hoping. But then as you rightly say it is history we are looking at here! That's why I have chipped in..as I generally dislike Sonic games.

I mean, to put it another way....if say this was BH1.5 I reckon twice as much would be raised in half the time....


Also, and this is just a quick observation on my part. When you first announced all this (prior to the auction going up) and the figure of $2000 had been stated I instantly thought that would be 100 members at $20 a pop (or 80 x 25 or 200 x 10)...so I was a little shocked when it was 400 at $5 a pop. Sure they equal the same thing but 100 x 20 seems a lot easier to work with than 400 x 5. Sure, people can chip in more as they see fit etc, and I'm sure we'll hit $2000 for this. But perhaps, looking ahead to further projects like this, it might be better to raise the minimum stake a little....maybe say $5 per $k needed to be raised. So if $2k is needed to be raised the minimum contribution is $10, $3k its $15 etc. Just a thought.

Keep up the great work regardless!

[Parris]

We've already seen what the game is. This is the same game
that sold for over $2500 no more than a year ago.

$2000 breaks down to about 400 people giving $5, or 200 people giving $10.00 each.

This is like owning biohazard 1.5 or similar. This is incredible stuff, and if it
fails to excite you because you don't own a $10 gaming console then
quite frankly I'm puzzled. What you're saying defies the very reason for
being here in the first place.

I'll put it to you this way, if this isn't exciting, what is?
You are never going to see something as rare as this
as long as you live.

"We've already seen this game...." Okay, I guess I am relatively new to this entire field, which is not something I hide. So for the record I've never seen it before, don't know it's value and wanted to ask, but felt discouraged from asking. That should give some indication as to how intimidating being new to this sort of thing is, which is why I am always prepared to ask stupid questions when others might not. I've stated several times in all sorts of threads that I am new to this, unlike others. I don't "pretend" to know.

If for some bizarre reason I am being shot down in flames for asking, then how can people learn especially if the rules of this thread are that you say nothing elsewhere? I'm hardly a threat, but I don't like being pushed around or patronised like I should know not to ask. I was invited to contribute and I'm sorry if what I should then do is shut up.

The whole Assemblegame forum is meant to be about discussion. I've contributed various threads, some of which are light hearted because I really do not take myself seriously. Others are general interest queries about consoles, I don't pretend to know my stuff as I am learning. Yet other threads are concerned with bits & pieces I do know about. I've been congratulated for standing my ground, sticking up for myself and for contributing to the general community feel of the forums. You selected "me" to come here, which was very kind of you, but I never actually asked.

I asked about the number of people because I don't know whether you are really needing larger contributions or not. I can do the maths, but I was asking whether there were sufficient numbers of people invited into this thread to generate sufficient funds at $5 a throw. Hence my donation, which wasn't vast, but there we go. If you consider my question, you'll see I was politely asking whether we should increase our contributions, not "$5 is too much, we need more people!"

Am I being flame grilled for asking questions? If so why? I merely stated that if this was going to be a repeated exercise then drumming up funds might be considered. Everyone's collections are safe, I didn't steal them and suggest they were being split up to obtain software I am not prepared to donate to.

What does "..if it fails to excite you because you don't own a $10 gaming console then quite frankly I am puzzled. What you're are saying defies the very reason for being here in the first place..." actually mean? What does it relate to? I said "I'm also without a Saturn (it died ages ago), but they are pretty cheap to buy so count me in too" and "...I shall gladly donate $12 and figure out how to get it to you. Does that seem fair enough?"

Did you actually read what I wrote?

If you're having a go at me then just spit it out. I cannot see what I have said that is so out of order that it warrants me being made a laughing stock of Kevin?

Frankly, if anyone asking questions about something they don't understand about the gaming community is rounded upon then perhaps the question should be, does the Assembler community exist to assist anyone from all levels of gaming interest or purely as an elite brigade unwilling to open it's doors to new members with less knowledge than those already here?

Up 'til now I have always felt 100% welcome and at home. If being at the "core" of that gaming experience is being lampooned for merely opening my mouth and having the audacity to query how this is all being handled, then yeah, sorry I would seriously re-consider being a member.

Being that I am 35years old, I have no gripes with anyone, it's all a tad strange to me why I am being questioned. So, perhaps an olive branch would be good mate? If I wanted a cheap fight I'd just 'phone up my ex-wife and let her talk bollocks to me all night! I come on Assembler to learn, relax, chat and have a laugh. That generally doesn't entail being criticised for either asking questions or making suggestions, which incidentally have been taken out of context.

I didn't post what I wrote to have a go at anyone, and I assume that you didn't write what you wrote to have a go at me. Because if you did, then consider me out of this. <Oh, either way I'd still donate, not because I am particularly interested in Sonic (sorry, I am not a huge fan) but because I contributed so that it could out there, not for personal gain> ;-)

[marshallh]

ASSEMbler: is there a way you could mass-email everyone in this usergroup about the donation? I think some non-regulars would be willing to pitch in.

[ASSEMbler]

Parris , As you said you're new to all this ,which is fine.

What is important to one may be unimportant to another I suppose.

Marshallh: If they are in the user group, they can read all of this.
If people aren't interested they just aren't. I think we can pull this off.

[Yakumo]

Wouldn't it be ironic if a cell company suddenly decided it needed 500 plastic test supports.... :banghead::lol: if only :lol:

Yakumo

[karsten]

Yes, it is.

http://assemblergames.com/images/sonicx/sonicx.gif
http://www.lostlevels.org/stuff/xtreme/01.jpg

This is not a full game, it is the original nights engine version that was pitched
to sega of Japan, that sonic team sawand went apeshit over the use of the
nights engine, and made them use their own custom engine (fisheye).

There is no saturn version left existing except this, this is the only copy existing.

There is a PC version of the fisheye game, but it's mostly stuff added on
in revent years.

I'll make some videos and pictures, but so far the lack of excitement
is disappointing. I understand that we might not be sonic fans
and that could be a problem.

That is one reason why I set the auction for a week.
If we do terribly, and don't get close I am just going to pull the plug.
However that probably means the game will never see the light of day.

I have the game here, in my hands. If this takes six months, it takes six months.
Some of you weren't here for the giant shitstorm that hit last time, and that is
why it is hidden away.

We could probably raise the money in a few hours if it were out in the open.

However, the chaos and bitter feuding isn't worth it.


i've bought other 3. +1 before that's 4 total from azi-dahaka (me). after seing something makes you more willingly. next time better make some pics and video immediatly at the start of the deal ;)

[Parris]

Parris , As you said you're new to all this ,which is fine.

What is important to one may be unimportant to another I suppose.



Hmmm? I never suggested for a second that the software was unimportant. In making a contribution of any kind however large or small I thought that perhaps I was doing ''my bit'' irrespective of my interest in this particular piece of software or not.

Being new shouldn't mean being a easy target for a community flaying!

Whenever I've said anything to upset or offend (which hasn't been often), I've had the guts to admit it and apologise. I'm quick to spot my mistakes.

Kev, you can't pick & choose the people that become members of the Assembler community, but you can nurture the community and let it grow. I think it's genuinely a fantastic place, but today I just feel that I'm being patronised which is ironic considering those who immediately responded to my posting totally missed what was being written. Was I or was I not actually trying to drum up further contributions and even suggesting a general forum raffle for future funds? I even said I would be willing to donate a bit of my kit to the cause!

I enjoy being part of the community, but not being patronised for being less knowledgable on specific subject matter.

What I wrote seemed to be totally missed, the points I made were lost in some weird time warp! I said I was in favour, count me in, here's my donation and what can we do to drum up further cash! Also, do we have sufficient people in the thread to reach the target with just $5 contributions. Somehow it ended up with '' you are an idiot Parris '' - lol

Hey, it's no sad loss and you'll still retain the contribution. Even better, you don't even have to apologise, which would have been good, but fair enough!

[sabre470]

Hi Everybody,

I just wanna add that we are given an incredible opportunity here to get something that is one of a kind. Let's not ruin it. Kevin is trying to pull this off for us, he is not forced to do so.

How many people do you actually know who would do that?

From my prospective if people have questions they should ask them, forums are meant primarely for discussion let's not forget that. There are enough crap out of the forum to get angry at. Let's make at least the 0bit section peaceful and opened.

If some of the people here don't have a Saturn, there are a couple of decent saturn emulator like SSF which are getting better everyday. Any help required let me know.

This time it is Sonic next time it might be a title that some other like, let's try to make this release a smooth success to pave the way for more. I'm not a huge fan of Sonic myself, but I guess I am very interested in anything unreleased.

Sabre

[Parris]

I Everybody,

I just wanna add that we are given an incredible opportunity here to get something that is one of a kind. Let's not ruin it. Kevin is trying to pull this off for us, he is not forced to do so.

How many people do you actually know who would do that?

From my prospective if people have questions they should ask them, forums are meant primarely for discussion let's not forget that. There are enough crap out of the forum to get angry at. Let's make at least the 0bit section peaceful and opened.

If some of the people here don't have a Saturn, there are a couple of decent saturn emulator like SSF which are getting better everyday. Any help required let me know.

This time it is Sonic next time it might be a title that some other like, let's try to make this release a smooth success to pave the way for more. I'm not a huge fan of Sonic myself, but I guess I am very interested in anything unreleased.

Sabre

I agree totally. What I wrote was not meant as a dig and Kevin should be congratulated on having fought to get this released.

Debate & discussion on how to facilitate further releases, whether a slush fund should be provide so that unexpected releases can be snapped up, all sorts of questions exist and I hoped to open a path for some of that.

This area of the forum really should be for serious discussion about serious issues (which I am sure is what was initially intended). Regrettably that can mean serious fall outs, so hand extended and waiting for Kev type shake...... so, let's just get on with it eh!

[sabre470]

let's just get on with it eh!
Absolutely:thumbsup:

How many guys open and maintain a forum for your pleasure, gives you great videos about Hudson, manage to get you an opportunity to get Sonic Extreme and more later and so many other stuff that we take for granted!!!

Let's respect that and the Sonic Extreme opportunity and get on with it all together, don't forget videogames are fun!!!

I think we should really start to debate, on what we are going to be able to hack out of this beta, extra characters, tiles, codes...

Wish I had an action replay for my saturn now...

Sabre

[Parris]

Absolutely:thumbsup:

I think we should really start to debate, on what we are going to be able to hack out of this beta, extra characters, tiles, codes...

Wish I had an action replay for my saturn.

Sabre

Who knows, I may finally "get" that whole Sonic vibe as the only release I really liked was the original one. I hated Sonic Adventures and when I sat watching mates playing various other versions I felt that the originality had been replaced with stock phrasing (If you catch my drift?)

[karsten]

sorry if i sounded mean parris. i was just stating that what to do with acclaim's software it's up to kev completely. just that.

also, beside some argument i can't see any flames... let's call it settled, everybody, ok?

it's true, something is important to someone, and less to another. But this proves that we're a great community because lots of people are donating even if they're not sonic fans (like) or doesn't have a sure way to play it (again like me :D ). I think the incomprehension grow because we're all wishing to see this first important deal end off soon and well.

karsten

PS sorry again if i've contributed in creating a bad atmosfear, i'm just and open man and say what i have on my mind freely. also i never get offended by anything and sometimes i overdo it thinking that people doesn't take it the wrong way like i do.

[Parris]

sorry if i sounded mean parris. i was just stating that what to do with acclaim's software it's up to kev completely. just that.

also, beside some argument i can't see any flames... let's call it settled, everybody, ok?

it's true, something is important to someone, and less to another. But this proves that we're a great community because lots of people are donating even if they're not sonic fans (like) or doesn't have a sure way to play it (again like me :D ). I think the incomprehension grow because we're all wishing to see this first important deal end off soon and well.

karsten

PS sorry again if i've contributed in creating a bad atmosfear, i'm just and open man and say what i have on my mind freely. also i never get offended by anything and sometimes i overdo it thinking that people doesn't take it the wrong way like i do.

Call it settled Karsten, no problems here.

Re Kev's Acclaim software. I wasn't suggesting he "give" it away or even donate anything. It was merely a light hearted suggestion in order to generate a legitimate source of funding for the releases. If I have a $20 PSx with Acclaim written on it (which I do) and it was auctioned, it would be in the general threads as a bit of fun. You'd have every man and his dog donate $5 if he thought he was getting a bit of devkit. Unknown to the general thread, all those donations would be contributed to a slush fund for software releases.

The point wasn't to get Kev to put his hand in his pocket, it was just an example. Honestly, I genuinely don't expect anyone to go further along the road than I would be willing to do so myself.

I felt the lick of a few flames, but perhaps it was unintentional. I think it needs to be clarified that being "new" doesn't mean "stupid" it just means you lack the experience and knowledge, which is why I feel the need to ask dumbass questions. It saves anyone else doing the same >>> points at no one in particular (but you know who you are!) lol

All is fair in love & gaming :thumbsup:

Put one of my worries another way. Take Kevin out of the situation just for a second. Imagine this were anybody else. If the seller rips the buyer off, then we have a problem. What if all the donations don't come in, who pays the short fall, what would happen to the auction if it were cancelled or fell through and the buyer were left having to pass back all those donations? PayPal fees aside, it would mean losses on both sides. I am sure these are all sensible queries gleened from almost 5 years of dealing with eBay and PayPal.

This time it should all go 100% smoothly, but I was asking about what to expect in relation to future finds. Have none of us considered where Kevin would be if he were left to make the shortfall and arguements sprang up about where to go with this next time? Seriously, sometimes the glittering prize at the end of the line takes people's eyes off the logical ball!

I always try to deal with things I can afford, which isn't always easy when something turns up out of the blue. You might have 1 buyer, but you have approximately 400-500 stakeholders in the end. That's a few people to go around if an issue arises and the whole point of doing this in such a manner is because few of us actually has $2k sitting available to purchase one particular item. That's a heap of cash if something goes terribly, tragically wrong. I might not have negotiated the release or purchase of a $2k software title (rare or otherwise) but I've dealt with $500k house deals and I cross t's dot i's and like to know everyone (including the person(s) respresenting the stakeholders) are safe from being caught out.

In the end, I might be "new" but I am not "green" and although I come to this site with many expectations, I don't expect anyone to take a $2k dump for me. Kev could at some point get shafted for PayPal fees or worse!

[sabre470]

Who knows, I may finally "get" that whole Sonic vibe as the only release I really liked was the original one. I hated Sonic Adventures and when I sat watching mates playing various other versions I felt that the originality had been replaced with stock phrasing (If you catch my drift?)

The original Sonic was brilliant, it was new, fresh, fast and different from Super Mario, a hit. With sequels you loose that initial vibe that makes the game so special. I had the same impression with Shenmue I loved the first one to death but then the next one seemed less appealing.

As always take the same principles but a different sorty doesn't mean necessarily you have a hit. Capcom learned that with Resident Evil, Zero was crap but 4 was incredibly new and different.

I think from the Sonic Extreme beta we can learn a great deal on a hit to be being washed out by corporate bullshit.

SEGA US: "can we use your nights engine"
SEGA JAP: " no it's ours you can't have it"
SEGA US "but we already made a demo with it"
SEGA JAP "give it back it's mine"
SEGA:"BTW aren't we in the same company?"

and the story goes on...

Sabre

[Juste]

I hope we can make it. (^_^)

I don't know very much about the game, but I am happy I can help. (I have only ever played Sonic 1 & 2 ^_^)

[sabre470]

I don't know very much about the game, but I am happy I can help. (I have only ever played Sonic 1 & 2 ^_^)

Here you go mate : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_X-treme

Probably not the best resource about this game but that's a start:thumbsup:.

Sabre

[karsten]

Call it settled Karsten, no problems here.

Re Kev's Acclaim software. I wasn't suggesting he "give" it away or even donate anything. It was merely a light hearted suggestion in order to generate a legitimate source of funding for the releases. If I have a $20 PSx with Acclaim written on it (which I do) and it was auctioned, it would be in the general threads as a bit of fun. You'd have every man and his dog donate $5 if he thought he was getting a bit of devkit. Unknown to the general thread, all those donations would be contributed to a slush fund for software releases.

The point wasn't to get Kev to put his hand in his pocket, it was just an example. Honestly, I genuinely don't expect anyone to go further along the road than I would be willing to do so myself.

I felt the lick of a few flames, but perhaps it was unintentional. I think it needs to be clarified that being "new" doesn't mean "stupid" it just means you lack the experience and knowledge, which is why I feel the need to ask dumbass questions. It saves anyone else doing the same >>> points at no one in particular (but you know who you are!) lol

All is fair in love & gaming :thumbsup:

Put one of my worries another way. Take Kevin out of the situation just for a second. Imagine this were anybody else. If the seller rips the buyer off, then we have a problem. What if all the donations don't come in, who pays the short fall, what would happen to the auction if it were cancelled or fell through and the buyer were left having to pass back all those donations? PayPal fees aside, it would mean losses on both sides. I am sure these are all sensible queries gleened from almost 5 years of dealing with eBay and PayPal.

This time it should all go 100% smoothly, but I was asking about what to expect in relation to future finds. Have none of us considered where Kevin would be if he were left to make the shortfall and arguements sprang up about where to go with this next time? Seriously, sometimes the glittering prize at the end of the line takes people's eyes off the logical ball!

I always try to deal with things I can afford, which isn't always easy when something turns up out of the blue. You might have 1 buyer, but you have approximately 400-500 stakeholders in the end. That's a few people to go around if an issue arises and the whole point of doing this in such a manner is because few of us actually has $2k sitting available to purchase one particular item. That's a heap of cash if something goes terribly, tragically wrong. I might not have negotiated the release or purchase of a $2k software title (rare or otherwise) but I've dealt with $500k house deals and I cross t's dot i's and like to know everyone (including the person(s) respresenting the stakeholders) are safe from being caught out.

In the end, I might be "new" but I am not "green" and although I come to this site with many expectations, I don't expect anyone to take a $2k dump for me. Kev could at some point get shafted for PayPal fees or worse!

I think that keving might already have the item... and anyway the payment will be sent at the end of the auction.. by that time i think kev will already have the item test and all. AFTER that the donators will pay throught paypal.

[APE]

Assembler:

I've never bought a Saturn that didn't go for over $40, granted that is with games but why else would you buy a used console for?

To those without chips:
Assuming your saturn isn't a 64 pin model or a model 1 chipping the thing is easier than changing your oil, and less messy to boot. If you are really really are scared to solder you could literally tape the wires in place as there are only 2 and neither go anywhere terribly small.

To those without Saturns:
Whats wrong with you?!?!

[Parris]

I think that keving might already have the item... and anyway the payment will be sent at the end of the auction.. by that time i think kev will already have the item test and all. AFTER that the donators will pay throught paypal.

Yeah, this one seems secure enough, which is a bonus, but it's a general concern about on-going auctions / purchases. Ground rules if you like. ;-)

[karsten]

by the way,


On May-30-07 at 05:18:52 PDT, seller added the following information:

PLEASE BE ADVISED I WILL NOT SELL
TO ANYONE NOT CERTIFIED TO USE IT.
THE LICENSE IS AVAILABLE FROM
CANADIAN BROADCASTING AUTHORITY
AND COSTS $2,000 PER LICENSE PER
COLUMN.

isn't this funny?

[Jasonkhowell]

I really wish I could donate, but paypal screwed me over greatly last time because of a laptop. I have not seen anything about this yet, but is donating via a money order possible? I would love to donate $40 or so.

[devilredeemed]

I should have some funds within the next few days and then ofcourse I'll contribute. it is a bit more money with the dollar/peso situation (1 dollar is just over 3 pesos) - but it's painless when it comes down to what's at stake. I would drop a nice 50 on this if it wheren't for our devalued currency.

[opethfan]

I'll donate more later if there still isn't that much excitement. The only thing is that I'm still a student, with no job, a bank account in this country and an $800 debt to pay off (no BSing here, I want Sonic as much as the next guy), so unless the money is really needed, I've only donated once.

[XxHennersXx]

Did you bid $10 on one , or buy two.

You need to buy one per $5 donation. There's no point in bidding $20 on one.

If you want $10 =2x
If you want $20 = 4x

So when you bid and it says quantity, bid 4 more. (if you've only bid once so far)

I bought 2 items when the auction first went up. so i paid 10 dollars.

then I put in 5 more, for 25 dollars. and it's only showing me buying 5. o_O

[karsten]

I bought 2 items when the auction first went up. so i paid 10 dollars.

then I put in 5 more, for 25 dollars. and it's only showing me buying 5. o_O

it's normal. it overwrites the old bid. if you want to pay 35 just bid again for 7.

i know it sounds strange :D

[graciano1337]

To those without Saturns:
Whats wrong with you?!?!

:lol: I don't know! But a Saturn and a larger donation are definitely on the horizon with my next paycheck (also a modchip). :nod:

I still can't believe this is happening. I mean, I just became a member maybe two weeks ago, and now I have access to the 0th Bit and a chance to own Sonic Xtreme. I am truly honored and humbled. :pray:

[Nitrosoxide]

I think from the Sonic Extreme beta we can learn a great deal on a hit to be being washed out by corporate bullshit.

SEGA US: "can we use your nights engine"
SEGA JAP: " no it's ours you can't have it"
SEGA US "but we already made a demo with it"
SEGA JAP "give it back it's mine"
SEGA:"BTW aren't we in the same company?"

and the story goes on...

Sabre

Lol, reminds me of that coke zero video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrJ9hrAAeIU&mode=related&search=

[XxHennersXx]

it's normal. it overwrites the old bid. if you want to pay 35 just bid again for 7.

i know it sounds strange :D

yeah, that's what i was thinking.

on a completly unrelated note, i just spilt old ranch on my tshirt. now i smell all ranchy. But I will bid again for 7.

[Garlo]

Maybe this could help. For those who are not Sonic fans, here's an excellent article about Sonic Xtreme.

"It’s a series that ranks as one of the all-time greats, and rivaled the insane popularity of Mario and his stable of heroes at its height. Time and the 3D Revolution may not have been kind to Sonic the Hedgehog, but in the mid-90s, there was a brief, shining period when the new, 32-bit world lay before the franchise with incredible promise. This month Lost Levels will show you how that promise went horribly wrong, leaving a wake of disrupted careers, lost promise, and even physical illness. Join us for the strange tale that was Sonic X-treme for the Sega Saturn."

http://lostlevels.org/200403/200403-xtreme.shtml

[Hazuki]

And 5 from me :D [actually last dimes in my paypal :P]

[karsten]

amybe someone skilled in grphics can come up with a good fron/back cover for it... obviously references to assembler's first great release would be welcome :D

[XxHennersXx]

amybe someone skilled in grphics can come up with a good fron/back cover for it... obviously references to assembler's first great release would be welcome :D
I was going to try that for my copy and when i do i'll post it for anyone wanting to use it. It might not be all that great though, ^_^;

edit: so i went to the auction and set it to 7 items, so it's 35 dollars.

[karsten]

just in case someone is interested i wasted 10 mins for making a mockup cover

http://www.auritech.eu/assembler/sonicxtreme.jpg

edit if someone is interested i can make something better and the backside too.

but i guess we have far better artists

[Juste]

Here you go mate : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_X-treme

Probably not the best resource about this game but that's a start:thumbsup:.

Sabre

Hehe, thank you! I know about the game but kinda not about the different versions and stuff.

[drx]

By the way.


If a copy is ever
burned / sold ,even on Sega Saturn cdr, the change can be detected.

According to an Xtreme dev I talked to, there were only two discs made of this build, so if there's ever a flood of Saturn CDRs filled with this beta, they're bound to be fakes.

[ASSEMbler]

That looks awesome, sure make a full case for it.

The saturn I was going to test it in had a modboard failure,
so I had to order caps to recap it.

I have a saturn system cd, but it's been so long I can't
remember how to use it.

Anyone remember?

[APE]

If it's anything like the Dreamcast model you pop it in, boot, swap in media and let it run.

[ASSEMbler]

Yeah, I have to find mine now, lord knows where it's buried.

[ASSEMbler]

just in case someone is interested i wasted 10 mins for making a mockup cover

http://www.auritech.eu/assembler/sonicxtreme.jpg

edit if someone is interested i can make something better and the backside too.

but i guess we have far better artists

Do me a favor and remove the logo.

[XxHennersXx]

karsten, if you could PM me the picture of sonic you used I'll start on one.

[opethfan]

Try this on for size. I think it seems a bit empty, but if you want the PSDs, PM me.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8867/sonicxtremesu2.png

[graciano1337]

You guys don't want to see my cover for Sonic...it's awful... :lol::lol:

[XxHennersXx]

You guys don't want to see my cover for Sonic...it's awful... :lol::lol:

Jon, post it. I thought it was hilarius. I'd use it for mine as a joke. xD

[ASSEMbler]

It's now officially a contest

[Jaysmith2000]

WOWZERS! Need to stop by more often! Amazing! Regardless, my bid is in.....

[karsten]

Do me a favor and remove the logo.

sure, no problem it was "just for internal use" didn't know it was planned to be in rars . So i'll enter the contest later with something more suitable. (and with no logo obviously)

[Segafreak_NL]

Can't believe I didn't spot the forum and this thread before. Anyway, I'll pop in some bids when I get home from work.

[Adol]

Ok,i bid! :)

[karsten]

Can't believe I didn't spot the forum and this thread before. Anyway, I'll pop in some bids when I get home from work.

i think lost of people aren't aware of this forum, even being part of it :( it took me 1 day to notice :P

[f_bohmann]

i just bid on 6 items. and i dont even have a saturn. :)

[tonyvortex]

im happy to bid on this as well.

[GarethDE]

I only joined a few weeks ago but I've bid on 10 items. Hope that helps. Now to get my Saturn switched!

[ASSEMbler]

$1100 to go.

[GarethDE]

Is there a deadline for this money to be raised by? If so and you're still short towards the end, I can place more bids in order to help get this thing released.

[wheelaa]

Sweet. I make that 190 orders so far! Just 210 to go!!!



i think lost of people aren't aware of this forum, even being part of it :( it took me 1 day to notice :P

I know what you mean. I'm not a great reader of the Dev Forums section so often wouldn't scroll down that far on the front page to be able to see this new delight! (of course now I know its here I'm looking every few mins lol)

Assembler - perhaps it might help if you could move this section up the forum a bit so that any members who have been granted access to this cool place will see definitely see it? (After all we can't tell them about it, but don't want to miss out on contributions!)

[karsten]

Assembler - perhaps it might help if you could move this section up the forum a bit so that any members who have been granted access to this cool place will see definitely see it? (After all we can't tell them about it, but don't want to miss out on contributions!)

kev placed it on top now

[wheelaa]

As if by magic.....

[darcagn]

I ordered 2 of them; there's no way I could pass this up.

[Dot50Cal]

1075$ left to go :)

[cyberguile]

sorry to have bid only for one, but I'm low on money ;(

[negora]

Just a doubt, a silly one, but just to make sure that the correct people receive my money. When I bid, eBay reports me "This item may not ship to your location!". Is everything ok in spite of that warning?

[ASSEMbler]

yes, as there is nothing to ship.

[negora]

Thanks Assembler. Let's to bid then ;) .

EDITED: Ok, done. Although I wasn't sure about either adding units or increasing the bid amount. LOL. I hope it doesn't matter and the result is the same.

[Juste]

I got a warning message about postage because it said the seller has not put that he would post to my area. Hope I don't miss out on the plastic support things, I really want them. (^_^)

[manopac]

I've just bid on three

[ashpool]

Long time lurker here...
This is amazing stuff... I can't wait to dig up my saturn for this.
Thanks to Assembler and all who are involved!

Going to donate right away.

[Segafreak_NL]

Alright. 5 items added! :)

[wingedwolf]

after reading this... i feel so sad, i could even cry... :(

i am only 14 and i cant donate anything!
it seems that i will never play it, or at least see it in action.

[tvrvic]

This is awesome! I just bid to be a part of this!

[GarethDE]

Is there a deadline for this money to be raised by?

[djh82uk]

Ok, just placed my bid

Assembler if you need any help or support arranging all this just let me know, anything at all, would be glad to help.

DJH
Sigmatronics

[Wolfrider]

I'll see what I can do. This is fantastic news. :)

[Manic]

I'll try to donate as soon as possible!

[PsychedelicShaman]

Donated $5.60. New releases of old games/new found prototypes are always interesting.

[ince]

dont have a saturn but im happy to donate and help out this.

[wheelaa]

Just had a quick look at the auction..we're over the $1k mark!

[PrOfUnD Darkness]

Ok, 2 more!


You are the high bidder on all items you bid on
# You bid on 2 items. You are currently winning 2 items.
# Another user may still outbid you, so check this item again before it ends.

[Django!]

Donated.

I'll be donating/"buying another" again in the future.

[Psycho]

Just donated (rik1138 on Ebay). By my count, we still need $885, does that seem right? More than half way after about 1/3 of the auction duration... If we can keep that up...

Funny thing is- I could probably actually use the plastic tube...

Someone's going to have a lot of feedback to leave at the end of this...:110:

[APE]

Yeh about that feedback. It might be wise to stagger it just so nothing looks odd. It does take time to ship stuff so probably 3-4 days post auction with more/less time based on how close you are to Assembler's location.

I might be able to throw some more into the pot but I need to find out how much I'll have after my check comes this week. Tires are my #1 priority as mine as 11 years old, fortunately they've only got 30k on them or else they'd be falling apart.

[Shadowlayer]

Amazing news, BTW this is the saturn build right? but how much of it was completed exactly?

I mean, cuz all those videos in youtube are all of the PC version (that Ofer did) and the Saturn version had all those issues Senn was talking about.

[WindowsKiller]

I mean, cuz all those videos in youtube are all of the PC version (that Ofer did) and the Saturn version had all those issues Senn was talking about.
Did the PC version leak? Or are the videos on youtube all we'll ever see from that?

[Muffinman943]

Did the PC version leak? Or are the videos on youtube all we'll ever see from that?

PC version is in the hand of one of the members of the team who made it, but not out for the public. Thats all you will pretty much see as far as the PC version is concerned for the time being, but you never know what can happen

[Shadowlayer]

I think Ofer Alon has the build, since everyone is trying to contact the guy but as far as I know nobody has succeded since Ofer was so piss at SEGA that decided to never talk about the game again, or at least thats what I heard.

Anyways, so this Saturn build is the one with Coffin's Boss engine? the one with the empty GHZ-like level?

[Terrin]

Donated! Only have enough cash for one at the moment, but I've got a rather full change jar that needs cashing in... :thumbsup:

[APE]

Assembler said it was the first Nights build, meaning non-fish eye. If you find the images of Jade Gully with mountains, water and some rings you've found what this thread is about.

[Twimfy]

I think Ofer Alon has the build, since everyone is trying to contact the guy but as far as I know nobody has succeded since Ofer was so piss at SEGA that decided to never talk about the game again, or at least thats what I heard.

Anyways, so this Saturn build is the one with Coffin's Boss engine? the one with the empty GHZ-like level?

It's the one with the 'empty' GHZ level as far as we know. The thing which excites me more about this release is what may be found once it's in the hands of the hex editors. There's never been much said about the extent to which the current owner has explored the disks content beyond what's bootable.

[DrDoaK]

Bid on 6, thats all i can afford at until i get paid on the 8th. If the pots still short then i will def. donate a few more quid. I'm going to get my Saturn out and give it a dust ready:icon_bigg

Ebay id: ninjabearhug

[Muffinman943]

I think Ofer Alon has the build, since everyone is trying to contact the guy but as far as I know nobody has succeded since Ofer was so piss at SEGA that decided to never talk about the game again, or at least thats what I heard.

Anyways, so this Saturn build is the one with Coffin's Boss engine? the one with the empty GHZ-like level?

yeah, its the boss engine build

[Dot50Cal]

850$ left! Great job guys! :thumbsup:

[ASSEMbler]

nm what I just said, this is taking a bit longer.

[pedrot16]

well, to bad i don´t have a visa...

[Juste]

People are getting a little bit nervous about the auction being noticed and attacked. I am going to have it ended now, and re-list for the remaining $860.

It was a slite worry for me in donating, I thought maybe Paypal or eBay might stop my account if they found out something or if anything went wrong.

Edit: Spelling error. ^_^

[retro]

Question.

You say that those who donated get immediate download rights. How are these eBay / PayPal accounts tied to the users on the board, indeed to those allowed into this section? As it is an eBay auction, you could still have people accidentally stumble across the item. OK, I'm not saying that anyone would want to buy some crappy stand thingumuh, but your numpty friend didn't make this a private auction. People watch known collectors on eBay. FACT. Such people will wonder why several known video game collectors are bidding on utter tat.

Also, what does the item comment mean? If we buy the item twice, we are entitled to download it a second time?!? Doesn't it make sense to just say feel free to "buy" multiples of the item, i.e. donate more?

I don't understand the eBay bit, really. PayPal allow you to receive money for purchases for other goods, away from eBay. Many many online shops accept PayPal WITHOUT having an eBay account. There are companies such as hosting services that do. They must receive thousands of PayPal payments for the same value, so it won't be anything suspicious. What's the problem with just doing that - having it sent as goods, other (or whatever PayPal call it now)?

[arnoldlayne]

just placed a bid- 5.60. I hope this all goes well....i'll try and come back for more soon. Struggling to pay the mortgage this month (as usual). But! I did sell a C=64 and my flashed 360 today so it's not all bad.

Good luck everyone - and thanks for letting me take part.

eBay ID cheifwhat (actually my bro's account....but he's happy letting me hijack it)

Sonic 'rub-a-dub' Style Peace

[ASSEMbler]

"You say that those who donated get immediate download rights. How are these eBay / PayPal accounts tied to the users on the board, indeed to those allowed into this section? "

A: The only people who know about thus auction are here, in this news area, by invitation only.

"As it is an eBay auction, you could still have people accidentally stumble across the item. OK, I'm not saying that anyone would want to buy some crappy stand thingumuh, but your numpty friend didn't make this a private auction. People watch known collectors on eBay. FACT. Such people will wonder why several known video game collectors are bidding on utter tat."

A: I don't know how many people bid on something blindly because someone else is. If they actually do this 1: They are fucking idiots 2: They will eventually e-mail me and wind up getting a $5 refund.

"Also, what does the item comment mean? If we buy the item twice, we are entitled to download it a second time?!? Doesn't it make sense to just say feel free to "buy" multiples of the item, i.e. donate more?"

A: I could have said it 1000 ways and someone would still not get the hint. A more frank a discussion would amount to telling people that this was about donating money, and ebay would shut it down.

"I don't understand the eBay bit, really. PayPal allow you to receive money for purchases for other goods, away from eBay. Many many online shops accept PayPal WITHOUT having an eBay account. There are companies such as hosting services that do. They must receive thousands of PayPal payments for the same value, so it won't be anything suspicious. What's the problem with just doing that - having it sent as goods, other (or whatever PayPal call it now)?"

A: Paypal requires those businesses to have a business account, verified address, a bank account, credit check/ credit card, proof of inventory, and tracking for sales. They are also known for shutting down donations like this pending "proof of inventory".

Ebay allows for a plausable smoke screen. Items sold.

Questioning the method at this point gets us nowhere, as it's
already in action. I have fully explained these motives BEFORE in other
posts. I will not comment on this any further.

[ASSEMbler]

I am currently trying to take screens and vids, but my mod chip died.
The disc requires a saturn boot cd, sega 1st part version. I happen
to only have the 3rd party disc. I've asked the owner to send me a
clonecd version so I can try to hex edit it for my black boot cd.

If someone can walk me through a saturn emulator, I can use
that until I get the clone cd rip from him.

I'd like to get the pics and vids up tonight.

[sonik]

Done donated for the "S0-N1-C plastic support" ;)

[ASSEMbler]

hey someone finally got the joke.

[opethfan]

Ok, you wanna use SSF as it's the most compatible and best performing Saturn emulator out there. Get 0.08 Alpha R10 and a BIOS, probably Japanese version 1.00 (SEGA_100.bin, but there's a no BIOS mode which might not work) and that's all. Of course, you need an SSE2 processor (A64 or C2D, some P4s are ok) and dual cores are perferred. Then just fire 'er up, set the BIOS location, enable frameskip in the settings if it's lagging, (but for screenies it shouldn't be an issue), configure a control pad and get going! You may have to configure the date and time in the Saturn BIOS, and then it'll load, hopefully.

[Nitrosoxide]

hey someone finally got the joke.




EDIT: I relooked at the auction. The title's jokez ! at first I'm like "what the heck does "ONE S0-N1-C plastic support" then I'm just like ohhhhh! " S0-N1-C = sonic. The fact that, that took me lik 10 mins makes me feel so moronic.


ahem ...:110:

[PhantasyStar]

Just donated x5. If I get anymore $$$ I'll be sure to swing your way.

[APE]

"I don't understand the eBay bit, really. PayPal allow you to receive money for purchases for other goods, away from eBay. Many many online shops accept PayPal WITHOUT having an eBay account. There are companies such as hosting services that do. They must receive thousands of PayPal payments for the same value, so it won't be anything suspicious. What's the problem with just doing that - having it sent as goods, other (or whatever PayPal call it now)?"

A: Paypal requires those businesses to have a business account, verified address, a bank account, credit check/ credit card, proof of inventory, and tracking for sales. They are also known for shutting down donations like this pending "proof of inventory".

Ebay allows for a plausable smoke screen. Items sold.

This is true people. Something Awful tried to collect donations for Katrina and I believe the owner tried to send out little things as thank yous, nothing special or worth terribly much.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/paypal-donation-server.php
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/paypal-donation-server-2.php
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/paypal-donation-server-3.php
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/end-of-paypal.php

Paypal could really care less about its clients, unless you sue them. Doing it this way Assembler can claim to have actual merchandise ready to be shipped out.

The most important part of this is: Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

[archcosmo]

Donated!

I've bid on 1 item, for a total of $5.60 - ebay id bcanu

[madhatter256]

What if I can just donate straight to you or wherever that auction's paypal addy is? Will I still be considered? I plan on selling some items and I can use the money I will get from them to go straight to the donation pool. I'm talking about at least $120 worth of items sold where the money will go to this donation pool.

[ASSEMbler]

I don't want to risk it.. It's a brand new account, I don't want them looking at it until well after the money is sent to the game owner. I despise paypal...
The could try and screw me over.

[madhatter256]

Money Order via Registerd mail so taht I know it reached you safe and sound?

[Borman]

ebay= diroman. 5x bids for now ;)

[Dot50Cal]

765$ left!!

[samael64]

Is there going to be a way to get this without torrents for those whom donate? I'd like to donate, but do not use torrent programs.

[karsten]

I am currently trying to take screens and vids, but my mod chip died.
The disc requires a saturn boot cd, sega 1st part version. I happen
to only have the 3rd party disc. I've asked the owner to send me a
clonecd version so I can try to hex edit it for my black boot cd.

If someone can walk me through a saturn emulator, I can use
that until I get the clone cd rip from him.

I'd like to get the pics and vids up tonight.

i would appreciate you to teach me how to hex edit a game to make it play in 3rd party bootdisc! i have the same problem you have kev!

[Parris]

Kev, if you could please PM me your postal details I shall send payment the snail mail way. At least if I start now, it'll be with you in time. Ta! :thumbsup:

[WindowsKiller]

PC version is in the hand of one of the members of the team who made it, but not out for the public.
That's at least a starting point. :nod:

[Juste]

But I think programmingace has donated, is he a member again?

[retro]

OK, I bid for two items. I'm gonna have to use them unlicensed though, can't afford that much for even one license, let alone two! :lol:

Can't you use the swap trick on it, Kev? Even if it DOES require the 1st party disc, just swap trick the cloned disc in, then you'll be able to boot from the cd-r.