Hear about the kid who played manhunt 24/7 and then killed?

[ASSEMbler]

In uk, some nutter went and killed his chum after playing too much manhunt... crazy shit.

I don'tblame the game, he probably would have killed the guy anyway...

But the fact he used the same inital weapon as the game....
then again in usa we has fools doing GTA type robberies.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/3934277.stm

[Yakumo]

It's wankers with fucked up minds like him that give movies and games a bad name. For f'cks sake, I've played thousands of games that kill people but have never had the urge to go out and do it. Those type of nut cases have a screw lose in the first place.

Yakumo

[madhatter256]

True but you know MEDIA and how they like to hype sh*t up and over exxagerate. Headlines will say:

Hot Chick Anchor "Is your child safe when playing videogames? That story coming up tonight on 11 - and the results will shock you."

Hot Chick Anchor "Do videogames urge your child to kill?"

and blah blah blah.

[ASSEMbler]

Yes, and then the pan to a clip of doom from 1995

[Alien Workshop]

Yes, and then the pan to a clip of doom from 1995

Or MK, they still use that one.

This kind of shit makes me so mad. I can't stand it when they say, "Games like DOOM, Mortal Kombat, and Night Trap make you kill people". It's so damn gay. People just want to find a scapegoat, and it seems that video games are the best target. Sure, blame it on video games and ruin it for everyone, you really don't need to take responsibility for your mistakes and poor judgement. All I have to say about that is Damn Them To Hell. The people that blame video games need to stop pointing fingers and start taking responsibility for their actions. It only takes one crazy to ruin it for all of the sane people, and the people that believe games are evil, and that games make you kill are full of shit. I hate them. Oh yes, look at that poor crazy killer, he played too much DOOM and he had to kill, it was inevitable. Well i got news for you, I have been playing DOOM, Mortal Kombat, and many more violent games for years and I have not killed anyone yet. :smt011

Sorry about the rant, oh and Assembler I was not ranting at you, I was just building on what you said :smt023

[ASSEMbler]

http://users.burgoyne.com/~jtod/crying%20baby.jpg

[Johnny]

Well first Manhunt is a very disturbing game, and although i totally disagree that the game is the one to blame by this crime, it should not be being played by a 17 year old kid.

If i'm not mistaken, it got M rating in US, plus a large warning on the cover. I would suggest a 19+ for it.

Anyway, it's easy to blame the game instead of bad education by the parents, and so on. :butthead:

Just another episode on the GAMES ARE BAD series. :toimonster:

[dj898]

hmmm... IMO it's human who kills/pulls trigger...
till we have our human production line streamlined with QC in place :p we can't avoid having these defects I'm afraid... he he

i have feeling we are slowly moving towards the 1984 whether you like or not... probably not gonna happen in our life time but...

i'm in favour of R rating or whatever you call it for gaming as well. after all movie industry has R rating as well as X so why not for game? Game is for kids is misconception often used by politicians and I'd like ask those idiots whether they even thought about what had been written for them to read before go out and open their mouse...
probably not... i might see pigs fly before that happens...

IMHO it's the parents who should take responsibility when their kids gone bad. it's their duty and responsibility and if they cannot fulfil that they shouldn't have kids... probably some kind of licence might be an order for those poor parents before they have kids...

i know this sounds extreme but I'm afraid the day when these will be reality won't be that far off...
.

[Metal_4evr]

*WARNInG EXTREMELY IRRELEVANT!*


i have feeling we are slowly moving towards the 1984 whether you like or not... probably not gonna happen in our life time but...

That is why you become a cyber-punk 5kr1p7 k1dd13 and use all your lame windows scripts to bring down BIG BORTHER at his source, his 1337 ultra secure networks which can be crushed by the massive power of the DDoS attack which you set up at your junior highschool, using your own username and password!

h4x0r j00r n37w0rk,
h4x0r j00r w0rld!

[Tachikoma]

Heard this all before, if its not games its TV, I remember when the Power Rangers and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were going to be banned on the TV because "they made kids fight more" Parents were genuinly worried their kids would learn "Ninja death grips" from watching a cartoon/puppet.

[A. Snow]

I had Doom, Mortal Kombat, and Night Trap so you just know there is a body or two buried in my backyard. :smt009

[s0urce]

Manhunt is just boring after a few minutes of playing.If you aren't already pretty mentally fucked up you wouldn't do things like that no matter what kind of brutal game you've played.The world can't always protect retarded people from their own stupidity,but there's always somebody else needed to put the blame on ;)

[Taemos]

Yes, and then the pan to a clip of doom from 1995

I've seen worse... Some news channel speaking of child killing his sister, and then showning a clip of Final Fantasy VII :smt043 .

[Evangelion-01]

isnt that game censored lide fuck in europe? also ninja gaiden...?

[madhatter256]

Yes, and then the pan to a clip of doom from 1995

I've seen worse... Some news channel speaking of child killing his sister, and then showning a clip of Final Fantasy VII :smt043 .


:smt043

[cahaz]

i nver hear about that , but that just miserable..... :smt011

1- everyone know that this game is a 17+ game , why do he have it? he is just a kid , he can't pay 50 buck for a game, is mother certainly buy it , not him

2-game shouldn't be blamed when little kid play with games that they shouldn't be allowed to.

3-if parents are responsable of education, not video games.

4- its true that some games are going too far...and here , i don't talk about night trap , mortal combat , max payne , doom or anything else.
i don't remember the exact title of that game , i just know its a one. its a first person shooter, you need to kill people in town to hearn points you can take a cisor, dismember everybody , blowing up head, if you kill black people then your hearn bonuses..... that just discusting smt011 . no story here, just kill inocent people , but then , again , this game isn't for everyone! you can't buy it at shop or something else, you comand it on the web....
theses games shouldn't exist :smt011 ( i dont talk aboutr doom , maxpayne or anything else here , only bout that game...) but then again, this game ISN'T for KIDS!!!!


Rare are those parents that corectly educate their kids, they leave them along with viloent games, those can educate them..... :smt011 :

[Alien Workshop]

4- its true that some games are going too far...and here , i don't talk about night trap , mortal combat , max payne , doom or anything else.
i don't remember the exact title of that game , i just know its a one. its a first person shooter, you need to kill people in town to hearn points you can take a cisor, dismember everybody , blowing up head, if you kill black people then your hearn bonuses..... that just discusting smt011 . no story here, just kill inocent people , but then , again , this game isn't for everyone! you can't buy it at shop or something else, you comand it on the web....
theses games shouldn't exist :smt011 ( i dont talk aboutr doom , maxpayne or anything else here , only bout that game...) but then again, this game ISN'T for KIDS!!!!


Rare are those parents that corectly educate their kids, they leave them along with viloent games, those can educate them..... :smt011 :

I think the game is called Postal.

[Taemos]

'Bout to say the same thing... It could possibly be Postal 2, but I never saw anything about bonuses for killing African Americans. Postal 2 did contain some awful "arcade" games such as "Fag Hunter". Postal 2 is probably the most hateful and distasteful game I've ever had the displeasure of playing.

[ASSEMbler]

Oh man, postal was TERRIBLY violent, it made me cringe. It was 2d, but the begging not to die from the burning or the other dying characters...

[TheDeathcoaster]

The way I see it is that if these games ever were as bad as the media claims they are....then only people that already have mental issues would want to play them.

Stories like this really piss me off. People need to learn to take personal responsibilty and not blaim it on the first thing they can.

[ASSEMbler]

yep.

1. Whay the fuck did your kid have a knife and a hammer?
2. Why was he out without you knowing where he was?

[cahaz]

cahaz wrote:

4- its true that some games are going too far...and here , i don't talk about night trap , mortal combat , max payne , doom or anything else.
i don't remember the exact title of that game , i just know its a one. its a first person shooter, you need to kill people in town to hearn points you can take a cisor, dismember everybody , blowing up head, if you kill black people then your hearn bonuses..... that just discusting smt011 . no story here, just kill inocent people , but then , again , this game isn't for everyone! you can't buy it at shop or something else, you comand it on the web....
theses games shouldn't exist ( i dont talk aboutr doom , maxpayne or anything else here , only bout that game...) but then again, this game ISN'T for KIDS!!!!


Rare are those parents that corectly educate their kids, they leave them along with viloent games, those can educate them..... :


I think the game is called Postal.

yes, that's it! with the ''play-with-cisors'' logo.

official website pictures:
http://www.gopostal.com/fan/fanscreenshots2.php

and somes fan pics are worst...

[TheDeathcoaster]

I've played Postal 2 and foudn it quite entertaining ^_^ No, I'm not a sicko or anything....its just the game is so over exagerated and just makes fun of everything that people get offended by in it. Hell, the first people to try and kill you are protestors complaining about violence in videogames.

[Mr. Casual]

yeah, i remember when mk first came out...
kids in the neighborhood impaling each other on treble hooks and ripping each other's hearts out...
there wasnt enough bactine to go around. :smt019

p.s. postal sounds like a S. H. kinda game.
should i be worried if this person plays vice city so much and enjoys killing things too much? he lives to kill on that game.
10,000 deaths... i better watch it... :axe:

[supersonic87]

The BBc had it right, games don't create violence, but violent people are attracted to violent games.

[cahaz]

___Special news____

(little music)

staring cahaz..

(little music)

welcome to the news bulletin ,

we will begin this bulletin with a tragedic new:
a moron ( read : MORON) of 17 years old wildly killed is friend in a park somewere in england , he killed it with a knife just after he hited him with an hammer . the victim and the murderer where fanatic of a game called''MANHUNT''. Parents have demanded to prohibid the violent game of take 2, responsable of this killing pulse...

:smt011

and now , the meteo with yakumo . .. ( :-D )

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:smt011

source : a televison
other source: http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/2004/00009752.htm
(french site)

[id-republix]

Holy f***cking shit, thhat shit happened way too close to 'home'...


Personally I would not have a problem with Manhunt being banned. It's too bad it isn't - it is FAR too easy for kids to get their hands on this shit when they shouldn't and play it. If a kid can't buy the gane, he'll get someone older to who can. Or else go over to his mate's. or hell, download the damn thing - every single PS2 owner I know has a modchip or slidecard. Slapping on 18+ ratings and restricting its purchase to 18+'s is a joke. It only increases the forbidden fruit factor.

This is a game, as SPONG correctly states, that is first and foremost a murder simulator. This piece of trash of an excuse for software crosses all sorts of lines. Other games have violence, fatalaties, death, whatever as a consequence or an element of the game. Manhunt mkaes murder the sole bloody purpose. It doesn't help that the way this shit is marketed it's targeted heavily towards the teenager demographic, ie, through media such as CVG et al.

[antime]

The killer had planned to rob the victim to help pay off a drug debt. The fact that he liked Manhunt is incidental at best but gives the tabloids something to scream about. It also gives the victim's parents someone to sue for fifty meeleon pounds (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004352369,00.html).

[Alchy]

Personally I would not have a problem with Manhunt being banned. It's too bad it isn't...
...This piece of trash of an excuse for software crosses all sorts of lines...
So don't play it. Nobody is forcing you to, just like nobody forces you to watch violent movies, listen to music with violent lyrics, look at porn, drink alcohol, or indulge in any any other contentious civil liberty. Crossing the boundaries of good taste might not appeal to you, but that's ok because you don't have to experience it.

Which is kind of incidental, because if this game wasn't around, that kid would still have got killed. If not him then his next door neighbour, by the same guy. I don't want to be the one to break this to you, but some people are unhinged murdererous assholes. With or without videogames.


"If he was obsessed by [Manhunt], it could well be that the boundaries for him became quite hazy."If he honestly couldn't tell the difference between his PS2 and reality, he had unimaginable psychological problems well before the game ever entered his life. I've heard people say "this game was all it took to send him over the edge"... in that case, the guy at the keybab place giving him wrong change might have sent him over the edge. Let's ban Kebabs.

[koolkid13]

nobody forces you to look at porn,
Exactly that is my decision

[id-republix]

Personally I would not have a problem with Manhunt being banned. It's too bad it isn't...
...This piece of trash of an excuse for software crosses all sorts of lines...
So don't play it. Nobody is forcing you to, just like nobody forces you to watch violent movies, listen to music with violent lyrics, look at porn, drink alcohol, or indulge in any any other contentious civil liberty. Crossing the boundaries of good taste might not appeal to you, but that's ok because you don't have to experience it.

Which is kind of incidental, because if this game wasn't around, that kid would still have got killed. If not him then his next door neighbour, by the same guy. I don't want to be the one to break this to you, but some people are unhinged murdererous assholes. With or without videogames.


"If he was obsessed by [Manhunt], it could well be that the boundaries for him became quite hazy."If he honestly couldn't tell the difference between his PS2 and reality, he had unimaginable psychological problems well before the game ever entered his life. I've heard people say "this game was all it took to send him over the edge"... in that case, the guy at the keybab place giving him wrong change might have sent him over the edge. Let's ban Kebabs.

Try reading a little more carefully. Nowhere did I say that the kid killed because of the game, so don't try t turn that bullshit argument on me. The media's constant suggestions that game induce people to kill are utter tripe.

What does matter here is that children get their hands in this sort of crap far too easily - much easier than other items that are labelled as 'adult'. Media - movies, newspapers, games -does influence people, moreso children - and in the case of this game all it does is blatantly dehumanize and desensitize to death and murder. There's no reason for shit like this to exist, just as there is no reaosn for shit like snuff cinema to exist.

Some may think it's OK for this stuff to be on sale as long as it's supposedly restricted to those 18+, but even with that position in mind, the fact remains that games, rated and restricted as they may be, get into kids' hands far too easily. The ridiculous argument that the media constantly pulls out of his ass along with clips of MK and DOOM circa '95 that games make people kill is ridiculous - but the fact remains that this is a digusting, dehumanizing, desensitizing-to-death-and-violence murder simulation that does nothing else nor tries to pretend to, and can get far far too easily into childrens' hands .

[koolkid13]

The stuff that desensitizing our kids (read me) is stuff like ogrish and rotten. It was not available 10 years ago, of coursewe didnt have Cnn ten years ago :smt043

[supersonic87]

Interestingly, the parents who are suing rockstar had bought a copy for the victim :smt017

I thought they said the game should have been banned :smt011

Great parents :smt043

[antime]

Yes, it seems the killer didn't even own a copy (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=pub&aid=3918). Ban this filth I say, ban it!

[Tachikoma]

:smt043

Oh thats just too much!

It like the Columbine High School thing that was blamed on Marilyn Manson, when the nutbars didn't even listen to him!

[GaijinPunch]

I can't believe I'm moving back into this gene pool... by choice somewhat to boot!

[cahaz]

Oh thats just too much!

It like the Columbine High School thing that was blamed on Marilyn Manson, when the nutbars didn't even listen to him

they where blaming the matrix too, because they where all in black , with allot of guns....with sunglasses....
but everyone know that the matrix didn't invented the black colour and the black sun glasses.....
that' s BS , like neo already said..... :smt040

[id-republix]

Yes, it seems the killer didn't even own a copy (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=pub&aid=3918). Ban this filth I say, ban it!



Police involved in the Stefan Pakeerah murder case have revealed that the copy of Manhunt at the centre of a tabloid media frenzy last week was found in the possession of the victim, not the killer.

Newspapers and TV news channels gave significant coverage to the case last week, when the mother of the victim claimed that 17-year-old killer Warren LeBlanc had been "obsessed" with the ultra-violent Rockstar game.

However, according to a spokesperson for Leicestershire Constabulary, the police division which investigated the murder, the link is even more tenuous than was reported previously - with the game being found not in the room of the murderer, but of the victim.

"The video game was not found in Warren LeBlanc's room, it was found in Stefan Pakeerah's room," the spokesperson said today. "Leicestershire Constabulary stands by its response that police investigations did not uncover any connections to the video game, the motive for the incident was robbery."

How pathetic.

The UK right-wing media is absolutely full of fuckwits with no integrity.

[Yakumo]

I can't believe I'm moving back into this gene pool... by choice somewhat to boot!

I feel sorry for you mate. I may end up back there my self too :smt022 Bloody hope not though.

Yakumo

[Alchy]

The UK right-wing media is absolutely full of fuckwits with no integrity. :smt033 Couldn't have put it better...

[id-republix]

The UK right-wing media is absolutely full of fuckwits with no integrity. :smt033 Couldn't have put it better...

I can. All right-wing media is full of fuckwits with an agenda and no integrity. ^_^

That's not to say the so-called left wing is much better. Then again, if you live in the US especially, there's hardly a difference.