WTF!? Bill G reckons DVD will be dead within 10 years

[dj898]

this is interesting.

Bill G predicted DVD will be thing of past within next 10 years...
but then again he predicted TablePC will be the main form of computer we will be using and look what you are typing at... :)

he said future TV will recognise what the owner wants and delivery the content on time - presumably from M$ service...

now do you really want that happen?
I for myself will hang on to DVD for next few decades...

cheers

p.s. saw this new (http://news.naver.com/news/read.php?mode=LSS2D&office_id=031&article_id=0000044064&section_id=105&section_id2=230&menu_id=105) on one of Korean news server so I won't put the link here since hardly anyone will be able to read...

[madhatter256]

VHS is dead unless you're poor.

[LeGIt]

I still got a VCR and videos in my room - no point slinging them out just because they have been surpassed by DVD - granted I don't buy any more new VHS, but it is nice to still watch the films I do have -_-

[Greatsaintlouis]

VHS is dead unless you're poor.

I think maybe you should rephrase that so you don't sound like some sort of rich elitist asshole. I still seek out and buy VHS tapes, as well as laserdiscs, and even vinyl records. Yes, they can be cheap, but in some cases (laserdisc and vinyl) they can look and sound better than their fancy newfangled digital replacement, and in the case of VHS, there's a lot you still can't currently get on DVD. Blade Runner is a good example - you can easily find the shitty director's cut on both VHS and DVD, but the good original is only available on VHS and LD.

I think you could have just left it at "VHS is dead." :smt019

[Survival Tobita]

640K is enough for anyone.

[GaijinPunch]

I pretty much gave up on music altogether... but vinyl is the way to go.

[A. Snow]

I don't doubt that dvd will be dead or at least on life support in ten years. The way techonlogy is advancing with cheap broadband connections and settop HDD's it is only a matter of time before some one comes up with a profitable way to deliver movies directly to your home. It has already started with music and software so video is the next logical step. I work at a video store and trust me it is a dying industry. Why do you think Blockbuster is trying to sell games now. Same for retail stores like Virgin and Suncoast.

[PrOfUnD Darkness]

Nice! And what will I do with all my DVD discs?

Maybe Gates wants we update our stuff (eletronics, house) like we update Windows? Every week? :smt043



PD

[Metal_4evr]

I don't think that DVD will go extinct that fast but I think it's likely that a higher standard of them will come out soon (HD DVD).

[madhatter256]

DVDs will go until someone creates a format that is physically smaller yet holds 10 times more than a normal DVD and cost a lot cheaper to produce. Other than that, you need good marketing, thats how the DVD really took off.

[SilverBolt]

VHS is dead unless you're poor.

I think maybe you should rephrase that so you don't sound like some sort of rich elitist asshole. I still seek out and buy VHS tapes, as well as laserdiscs, and even vinyl records. Yes, they can be cheap, but in some cases (laserdisc and vinyl) they can look and sound better than their fancy newfangled digital replacement, and in the case of VHS, there's a lot you still can't currently get on DVD. Blade Runner is a good example - you can easily find the shitty director's cut on both VHS and DVD, but the good original is only available on VHS and LD.

I think you could have just left it at "VHS is dead." :smt019

Here in holland VHS is dead, all stores are selling them at dump prices to replace them with dvd's , and video rental places are already 80% dvd here and the last VHS tapes will be gone by the end of the year.

The reason being you can buy a dvd player here for about 30 euro's and a lot of great movies sell for arround 10 euro's. (the matrix,swordfish,final fantasy,ice age, shrek etc...)

The quality is vastly supperior to VHS even with the cheapest dvd players and they take up a lot less space and won't go shitty on you after a few years of intensive use (okay disney tapes will last forever but that's an exepption).

I don't know how things are in other parts of the world but here in holland only real die-hard fans or enormous cheapskates still buy VHS.

[Alien Workshop]

No suprise, what with blue laser technology looking so good at this point. Blue Laser is much more efficient than red, and the discs can hold more than standard DVDs and Double layer DVDs. Sony, and a few other electronic companies, have already started messing around with blue laser technology. Maybe what Bill was talking about was that the Red Laser DVD would die and be replaced by the Blue Laser formats.

- Edit -

Two main formats are being worked on for blue laser technology.
HD-DVD and Blu-Ray Disc.

HD-DVD was developed by NEC and Toshiba. The Disc can hold 20 GB per side using single-layer media.

Blu-Ray Disc was developed by many companies, Hitachi-Maxell, LG Electronics, Matsushita Electric, Mitsubishi Electric, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sony, Sharp, TDK, and Columbia Tri-Star. The BD can hold 23-27 GB on single-layer media

[PrOfUnD Darkness]

The major problem of the Blue-Ray discs, is that they use a disc caddy. That will bring more cust to produce it and adapt it in the current manufacturing process.


PD



Blu-Ray Disc was developed by many companies, Hitachi-Maxell, LG Electronics, Matsushita Electric, Mitsubishi Electric, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sony, Sharp, TDK, and Columbia Tri-Star. The BD can hold 23-27 GB on single-layer media

[LeGIt]

It doesnt matter what colour laser you use, you can even use an invisible laser it wont make bugger all difference -_-

[Metal_4evr]

I think HD DVD has a greater change of catching on at this point, as it is backward compatible with normal DVD's. Blue Ray discs are also harder to "burn" than DVD discs form what I've heard and makes them even more unattractive.

[Greatsaintlouis]

It doesnt matter what colour laser you use, you can even use an invisible laser it wont make bugger all difference -_-

Actually, it does. In a very simple nutshell, different color lasers have different wavelengths, and certain colors that have shorter wavelengths can read more information off of a disc written to take advantage of that laser's wavelength. Think of it as a much tighter beam that is able to scan much smaller disc spaces, and therefore more information.

And an invisible laser wouldn't work at all with DVDs and CDs and such - being optical media, it depends on the reflection of the disc's data by the laser's light. No light, no information.

[Alien Workshop]

I think HD DVD has a greater change of catching on at this point, as it is backward compatible with normal DVD's. Blue Ray discs are also harder to "burn" than DVD discs form what I've heard and makes them even more unattractive.

I also think HD-DVD will be "better" than Blu-ray because of the bakward compatibility. I really like the idea of having a machine that can play CDs, DVDs, and HD-DVDs.

[Evangelion-01]

I think HD DVD has a greater change of catching on at this point, as it is backward compatible with normal DVD's. Blue Ray discs are also harder to "burn" than DVD discs form what I've heard and makes them even more unattractive.

I also think HD-DVD will be "better" than Blu-ray because of the bakward compatibility. I really like the idea of having a machine that can play CDs, DVDs, and HD-DVDs.
Blu Ray discs will probably come with 2 lasers... red for backwards compatibility and the blue one :smt017

[Metal_4evr]

Well again I think consumers would rather be able to burn movies etc which is what DVD / HD DVD gives them...

[dj898]

I'm just about to convert all my old VHS/Beta into DVD-/+R.
don't tell me I will have to upgrade to blue-ray or what not in few years time... :(

by the way anyone seen DVD+R DL blank yet?
I have SONY burner that support the format yet haven't seen the bloody disc for sale anywhere!

with that finally I should be able to burn my master piece into full movie length on single disc! NOT! :p

cheers

[Metal_4evr]

I'm waiting to see the discs before I buy a new burner. Anyone know what the going rate is for these new DL discs?

[SilverBolt]

DL discs are verry hard to come by and are verry expensive, here in holland a single DL disc will set your back 15-20 euro's :Hangman:
For a 8,5 Gb disc, while you can buy a 10 pack DVD -R 's for the same money giving you 45 Gb instead of 8,5.

[madhatter256]

A few things that will make or break a media for the mass market.


A) Cheap to produce
B) It is durable
C) Will be backed up by all of media.
D) Looks "simple".


Lets take the example of BetaCam VS. VHS. Back then Betacam, and still does, has a much higher picture quality than VHS. It also looked wierd and complicated whereas VHS was a simple looking tape that looked like a DAT tape. BetaCam was more expensive to produce/buy but it held more data than VHS but VHS was cheaper to produce.

If a product meets those requirements then it will be around for some time.

[SilverBolt]

I thought VHS beat beta because all the porno vids at the time were VHS, orso i have read somewhere :smt043

[A. Snow]

Aw hell. I just bought a dvd burner last march. I figured dual layered disc were already out and it would burn them. Am I going to have to buy another or can I get some kind of driver update, flash something, ect?

[SilverBolt]

Aw hell. I just bought a dvd burner last march. I figured dual layered disc were already out and it would burn them. Am I going to have to buy another or can I get some kind of driver update, flash something, ect?

The only dvd burner i know of that can be flash u[graded to dual layer is the NEC2500.
For all others i'm affraid you might need to buy a new one (not that their that expensive the nec2500 is sold here for 80 euro's)

[Evangelion-01]

you should wait... dl burners are 2.5x it takes like 46mins to burn a disc.... just wait until it atleast is 8x